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Can you link multistrike to say, riposte, so that you counter attack 3 times? Can you counter attack with ranged weapons, say if you use the blocking quiver?
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Posted bySmooshfacedon Dec 11, 2014, 12:37:56 PM
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They can change several other things. Like more health per strenght, increased base armor of equips, add some implicit to armor items... So many options
I can't imagine any change which will be wise enough with current mechs.
More armour|eva on equip? That's a way down, game's gonna be too plain and simple - no need in combined and sophisticated mechanics, just get more armour|eva|HP (D3-style, huh). And still it works bad, armour is badly scaled to the mob dmg growth. And there's a a very hard way to get more eva|armour from witch for example. And finally it doesn't help against elemental|spell dmg.
I'd like to see more different mechanics and their combinations, but I just see as it goes more and more plain. Wanna go dodge? Then u shouldn't get armour and es, oh and block now. Wanna go block? Try to run over the whole tree to get noticeable changes - ehh, u wouldn't have enough points for something else, well, enjoy block at least! And so on...
Well, let everyone then join the club of stay_away_from_mob_pew_pew like current archers|doubletotems|srs|coc and be happy with that. I just kinda hope that Abaxoth will spawn much more frequently in the next league (due to announced blue packs affix) to see a lot of reeeeeeeeeeeps so that everyone would start to whine finally.
Like I said there are many options, I just pointed out some simpler ones. I'd like then to add a parry mechanic where instead of blocking a hit entirely, you receive reduced damage from it, should work with swords only. They could add something similar to many other weapons to make survivability better overall.
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Posted byOhnitielon Dec 11, 2014, 12:47:26 PM
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It just seems really weaksauce until you hit 80+ skillpoints and get 1 or both catalysts. Most of your damage comes in at the very end of your build path, and - correct me if I'm wrong - I fail to see it doing adequate amounts of damage to get your level up that high .-. Even if I'm misjudging the power of that build path - that's still a very specific build >.>
ATM I have 7+K tooltip with LMP, it's quite enough. And I don't play temp leagues, so I don't care when my DPS will be good enough, it's for respec of existing character.
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make one based on es not hp
Huh?
Anticipation slowly dissipates...
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Posted bytmaciakon Dec 11, 2014, 12:52:50 PM
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Rushed to early act 3 to get the new counter attack skills. They better be worth it.
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Posted byWeißenbergon Dec 11, 2014, 1:28:03 PM
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Move Mind over Mater into the caster tree, and then your arugement is valid. Until that node is accessible, you're just backing up our main arguement because with it way down in the bottom of the duelist tree, it *isn't* accessible, and casters CANT feasibly use MoM (with or without Block) without Cloak of Defiance.
MoM is too good to just have sitting there in the caster tree its positioning is justified. Theres a reason the cloak is so incredibly popular lately. MoM is too strong for 1 point.
What was never justified was the amount of block nodes that remained in the caster tree after MoM was added.
While it can't be stuck directly IN the caster tree for reasons that you mentioned - how many builds do you know that allocate MoM on the passive tree?
I'll tell you. Basically none. Because though it's too strong for 1 point, it's not strong enough for 23 (on a conservative estimate, assuming you're a shadow, its worse if you're a witch or templar). That, and ONLY that is why cloak is so popular. No one can allocate MoM on the passive tree unless you're an extremely specific build. it's popular by necessity, it's nigh impossible to do MoM without.
Solution? Move MoM closer to the caster tree. Problem (mostly) solved.
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Posted byTikoXion Dec 11, 2014, 1:54:11 PM
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Move Mind over Mater into the caster tree, and then your arugement is valid. Until that node is accessible, you're just backing up our main arguement because with it way down in the bottom of the duelist tree, it *isn't* accessible, and casters CANT feasibly use MoM (with or without Block) without Cloak of Defiance.
MoM is too good to just have sitting there in the caster tree its positioning is justified. Theres a reason the cloak is so incredibly popular lately. MoM is too strong for 1 point.
What was never justified was the amount of block nodes that remained in the caster tree after MoM was added.
While it can't be stuck directly IN the caster tree for reasons that you mentioned - how many builds do you know that allocate MoM on the passive tree?
I'll tell you. Basically none. Because though it's too strong for 1 point, it's not strong enough for 23 (on a conservative estimate, assuming you're a shadow, its worse if you're a witch or templar). That, and ONLY that is why cloak is so popular. No one can allocate MoM on the passive tree unless you're an extremely specific build. it's popular by necessity, it's nigh impossible to do MoM without.
Solution? Move MoM closer to the caster tree. Problem (mostly) solved.
the whole problem is casters need some kind of survivability against reflect * some kind of mechanism *
melee ( has easy access to lifesteal ) so reflect is a joke to them
rangers *( bow users ) the same ( easy lifesteal ) reflect is a joke *to high damge can 1 shot them still
casters get rekt by reflect ( non block/mom/ builds ) hard time to get a decent amount of lifesteal
p.s mom in casters tree would be wa to op ( MOM is op as fuck )
p.s Cloak of Defiance is now as wanted a Kaom's Heart back wen it was 1000 hp )
@dragnar <<< ingame or pm me Last edited by dragnar on Dec 11, 2014, 2:14:39 PM
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Posted bydragnaron Dec 11, 2014, 2:12:18 PM
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Are the counter attacks fully automatic or do we have to press a trigger/reaction button, like with mines?
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Posted byQuantumeon Dec 11, 2014, 2:14:01 PM
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GG GGG. Really looking forward to the new challenge league mechanics, and seeing how they work.
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Posted byDragonsProphecyon Dec 11, 2014, 2:16:00 PM
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Added a new Strength Skill - Reckoning: Perform a swift counter-attack against enemies in a cone shape when you block with your shield. (Available from the Intruders in Black quest for the Templar, Marauder, Duelist, Ranger and Scion.)
Why no love for melee staff users?
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Posted byOrbifoldon Dec 11, 2014, 2:20:09 PM
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plssssssss make that Static Strike a compatible facebreaker skill
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Posted byihssanon Dec 11, 2014, 2:30:01 PM
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