RaizQT's budget RF incinerator (Atziri killer build) 2.0 UPDATED!

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Salus_99 wrote:

Awsome build, thx I'm trying it but got a few questions:

Just 4 questions:

- Why grace? We don't use evasion and grace need a dexterity to level up so why not determination?

- Atm I run with cybil's (I'm 38) and it's great but later if I run with a Doryani's catalyst, so I will no need CWDT on my boots so does

will be a good item?

- Why elemental weakness and not flammability?

- And finally to pick Sovereignty must I go by the 2 points to reduced reserved or save 1 point and go by aura effect? I'll got an enlighten level 2 and I'd like to know if I go by aura effect if i'll got enough mana reserved.

thx for your answer and for ready this ;-)

Raiz isn't really checking this thread anymore so the rest of us will help you as much as we can.

Determination is better in most cases, unless you get Iron Reflex then Grace is ok too. I personally don't bother running either so I can run Anger for more DPS.

Kaom's Roots is ok if you haven't got rare boots with high life roll. Raiz's CWDT links are not needed.

Elemental weakness can be improved by quality, but flammability cannot. They give the same -resist at the same level, and flammability's additional benefit of igniting mobs are not used in this build. (Incinerate cannot crit, thus cannot ignite. RF is auto burning degen.)

Regarding the Sovereignty, that's up to you really. If all your mana/blood magic is sorted out, no need to take reduced mana reserved.

Tank you mate, I will try like that, my only problem is that grace take a lot of dexterity

Is it possible to farm Atziri with a Leo shield or is the RotP for tanking the flameblast as well?

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Karyoplasma wrote:

Is it possible to farm Atziri with a Leo shield or is the RotP for tanking the flameblast as well?

From page one of this guide

"shield : Rise of the phoenix. OR a shield with armor + the leo mod. Generally we try to avoid ES in this slot because of the increased defense nodes."

How can I avoid ES when Rise of the pheonix has ES?

Now i'm 69 all regen nods, got clarity 17, RotF, , I cant run RF without degen, but what a slow regen !!!

No ES except RotP of course, no nods do boost defence form the shield so noboost ES, and still IF a wanna make any skill I need life potion even witn a cybil's.



Did I miss something?

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Salus_99 wrote:

Now i'm 69 all regen nods, got clarity 17, RotF, , I cant run RF without degen, but what a slow regen !!!

No ES except RotP of course, no nods do boost defence form the shield so noboost ES, and still IF a wanna make any skill I need life potion even witn a cybil's.

Did I miss something?

Do the math, man.
You problably have 87% fire max res. RF burns you for 90% of your life.
That means that to sustain your RF you need 90%*(1-87%), which is 11,7%.
You have 12,9% life regen on your tree, so you have (12,9%-11,7%)=2,2% of your total life to cast incinerate.
Based on your links, i presume that it costs you 37 mana to cast incinerate. Lets say that you can cast 12 incinerates per second using spell echo. Half of this is free, so it would cost you 6*37=222 life just to cast incinerate

Now look at your life pool. Is 2,2% of your total life more then 222 life? If it isn't, then its gonna degen.

To make this viable, you need:
- Blood Magic 20/20 (less mana multiplier, 10% reduced cost).
- See if GMP is needed, or if LMP would do the trick (165% multiplicer for GMP, 140% multiplier for LMP).
- Get a lot more life nodes from your tree (your gear has a lot of life, so nodes would be even more effective).
- Get PoF to lvl 20, so you could reach 88% fire res (or even make it lvl 23 with corrupt + empower lvl 3, to get 89% fire res).
- Get the Unreleting node on the passive tree. It gives you life and reduced mana cost.



TL;DR just lvl up your character/gems

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anakkk wrote:

Do the math, man.
You problably have 87% fire max res. RF burns you for 90% of your life.
That means that to sustain your RF you need 90%*(1-87%), which is 11,7%.
You have 12,9% life regen on your tree, so you have (12,9%-11,7%)=2,2% of your total life to cast incinerate.
Based on your links, i presume that it costs you 37 mana to cast incinerate. Lets say that you can cast 12 incinerates per second using spell echo. Half of this is free, so it would cost you 6*37=222 life just to cast incinerate

Now look at your life pool. Is 2,2% of your total life more then 222 life? If it isn't, then its gonna degen.





To make this viable, you need:
- Blood Magic 20/20 (less mana multiplier, 10% reduced cost).
- See if GMP is needed, or if LMP would do the trick (165% multiplicer for GMP, 140% multiplier for LMP).
- Get a lot more life nodes from your tree (your gear has a lot of life, so nodes would be even more effective).
- Get PoF to lvl 20, so you could reach 88% fire res (or even make it lvl 23 with corrupt + empower lvl 3, to get 89% fire res).
- Get the Unreleting node on the passive tree. It gives you life and reduced mana cost.



TL;DR just lvl up your character/gems

Ok i think I gonna stop wasting my time and my currency on this char.

lvl 3 empowerer to avoid degen .... no longer cheap lol.

I even try with a vitality, low level ok, but 1.25% life regen and still not able to have regen

1st thing i'd like to mention- it was easyest leveling i've got without any specific gear+self found and 2 chaoses for lifesprig which i bought in cruel. Also i haven't dared yet to play HC so i was progrecing slower but anyway it was easy.
And now i wonder what level would it be worth to try atziri, i got around 30 or even 50 atziri kills in standard, but it was SC+ probably i used to play not so easy builds because i've got less mitigation, lower life pool and lots of uniques and dps(sacrificing lots of survivability, which was stupid by me).

My skill tree:
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwEBAdwEswUtBg4J9gxfFCAZLho4Gj4cpyFgJy8n7SkuKaU62DwtPfxAoEGHQzFG10d-UEdTpVcNWGNZ81ugXz9j_WVNZlRodGjycYVyD3KpdO108XXLd-N5aHrmeu98Dny4ggeCm4Nfg8yE2YzPjX6QVZRvlKCaO6IAp1WpbqyqrY23Pre2vTa-p8BmwQTEWMT2xq7G2M9-0iHUfNWm2L3ZYdpi2sHhc-pi7DjtPO8O8B_xrPJB8kX2SPno_go=

It's lvl 73, and now i'm thinking what'd be better:grab more life nodes, or block?
I've got around 4,6k life.
I got 1 slot for jewel i've decided to use one for intelligence, to get more resists, and thinking about what to roll on the other one.
Now i've got: 4,6k life, 7k armour(w/0 flask), resists overcaped to run ele weakness. I use purity of fire+AA, and i think what would be better: use grace or purity of lightning.

I'm scared of huge cost of incinerate+BM(still ok with fire flask), and about atziri trio and atziri's storm call's.
How'd u advice, should i try atziri around lvl 81-85 or it would be too risky?

My gear(still leveling masters to put craft, still haven't decided about gems setup), just bought it.