Marauder - RaizQT's budget RF incinerator (Atziri killer build) 2.0 UPDATED! - Forum

" Salus_99 wrote: " anakkk wrote: Do the math, man. You problably have 87% fire max res. RF burns you for 90% of your life. That means that to sustain your RF you need 90%(1-87%), which is 11,7%. You have 12,9% life regen on your tree, so you have (12,9%-11,7%)=2,2% of your total life to cast incinerate. Based on your links, i presume that it costs you 37 mana to cast incinerate. Lets say that you can cast 12 incinerates per second using spell echo. Half of this is free, so it would cost you 637=222 life just to cast incinerate Now look at your life pool. Is 2,2% of your total life more then 222 life? If it isn't, then its gonna degen. To make this viable, you need: - Blood Magic 20/20 (less mana multiplier, 10% reduced cost). - See if GMP is needed, or if LMP would do the trick (165% multiplicer for GMP, 140% multiplier for LMP). - Get a lot more life nodes from your tree (your gear has a lot of life, so nodes would be even more effective). - Get PoF to lvl 20, so you could reach 88% fire res (or even make it lvl 23 with corrupt + empower lvl 3, to get 89% fire res). - Get the Unreleting node on the passive tree. It gives you life and reduced mana cost. TL;DR just lvl up your character/gems Ok i think I gonna stop wasting my time and my currency on this char. lvl 3 empowerer to avoid degen .... no longer cheap lol. I even try with a vitality, low level ok, but 1.25% life regen and still not able to have regen for fucks sake, i did a complete answer and you grab one item, on one specific condition, and take an action based on just that little piece of advice ill give you a little video to get inspired: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuHfVn_cfHU	Posted by anakkk#7492 on Aug 21, 2015, 12:27:09 PM Quote this Post
" Salus_99 wrote: " anakkk wrote: Do the math, man. You problably have 87% fire max res. RF burns you for 90% of your life. That means that to sustain your RF you need 90%(1-87%), which is 11,7%. You have 12,9% life regen on your tree, so you have (12,9%-11,7%)=2,2% of your total life to cast incinerate. Based on your links, i presume that it costs you 37 mana to cast incinerate. Lets say that you can cast 12 incinerates per second using spell echo. Half of this is free, so it would cost you 637=222 life just to cast incinerate Now look at your life pool. Is 2,2% of your total life more then 222 life? If it isn't, then its gonna degen. To make this viable, you need: - Blood Magic 20/20 (less mana multiplier, 10% reduced cost). - See if GMP is needed, or if LMP would do the trick (165% multiplicer for GMP, 140% multiplier for LMP). - Get a lot more life nodes from your tree (your gear has a lot of life, so nodes would be even more effective). - Get PoF to lvl 20, so you could reach 88% fire res (or even make it lvl 23 with corrupt + empower lvl 3, to get 89% fire res). - Get the Unreleting node on the passive tree. It gives you life and reduced mana cost. TL;DR just lvl up your character/gems Ok i think I gonna stop wasting my time and my currency on this char. lvl 3 empowerer to avoid degen .... no longer cheap lol. I even try with a vitality, low level ok, but 1.25% life regen and still not able to have regen Empower 3 is neither required nor expensive but whatever Last edited by Neurik#5484 on Aug 21, 2015, 2:04:36 PM	Posted by Neurik#5484 on Aug 21, 2015, 2:04:23 PM Quote this Post
" anakkk wrote: for fucks sake, i did a complete answer and you grab one item, on one specific condition, and take an action based on just that little piece of advice ill give you a little video to get inspired: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuHfVn_cfHU Lol nice vids, and I read all your answer, and I have undestand IF I go lvl 95 with all life nods maybe I could cast a 4L Incenerate without having a degen ....	Posted by Salus_99#6389 on Aug 21, 2015, 3:33:40 PM Quote this Post
I think his advice was pretty damn good. Let me put it in simple terms so you don't think you have to be level 95 to use RF. Get all the skill nodes listed, this will let you stand with it on and not have your life start going away. To cast you need enough life leach/life gained for enemy hit/ etc to be able to use Incinerate. It's that easy. I'm doing it at level 72 following this guide. Things that help: (just rewording things he already said) Blood magic gem as high as you can get it. Makes incinerate cost less You could use LMP instead of GMP until you get enough leach(LMP cost less) Life is a good thing, get more life nodes. follow the build, it works good POF at 20 would be awesome help, not needed at all, just needs to be 17 I agree with you on this, empower level 3 seems unattainable You could get unrelenting, but I suggest following the build. It works good as it is.	Posted by DrFugazi#5704 on Aug 21, 2015, 7:24:44 PM Quote this Post
To those talking determination over grace there is a major reason for this....determination SUCKS. The base value of grace with IR trumps the % from determination by a massive margin. I see a 2.3k difference in armor with all my % to armor nodes. I use a int jewel and a dex jewel and have never had issue even running lvl 20+ dex/int gems. With that said I recently put Int on my boots to remove my gem for more dmg :) " RagnarLoftbrook wrote: Was wondering if Righteous Fire works with Ancestral Bond?? I am wondering when I can go into using Righteous Fire?? I have Herald of Thunder/Herald of Ice/Purity of Fire (Level 18)(Quality5) and I have like a sliver of Mana to use plus I am degening fast...I have the life Regen nodes next to Shaper Node and I am level 75 Can someone explain please. Well no kidding you degen fast...lvl 18 purity isn't good to stop it and regening past it will only work with a massive life pool. Get a alpha's cowl and a empower gem (lvl 2/3) to get a lvl 23 purity of fire. Here is my helm setup Mind you I run a lvl 21 purity of fire BUT if you don't use AA you can replace it with empower OR sock it else where. I'm now ALMOST to the point where I can spam incinerate with blood magic and regen through it all and I regen easily with righteous fire up. Here is my current gear, still replacing the rings and contemplating on my belt solution. Nothing special or too hard to get, yet to try atziri though. During thick and thin fights I usually go to This has the same result as hitting a 4k health potion for me lol. Last edited by Therian#3949 on Aug 22, 2015, 4:36:29 PM	Posted by Therian#3949 on Aug 22, 2015, 4:17:26 PM Quote this Post
Not finished yet, but aleady 90% phy reduction (76/77 maps). Extra +10 to respect for Fortify =] Defence VS boss Incinerate 5L (6L on screenshot, but my Inc is 19lv and Empower 2lv = Inc 20lv) singe dps Waiting for 90lv and I'm going to drop Chaos Golem from CWDT and use Fire Golem + Minion Life. Rallying Cry will be also nice boost. Leveling Enlighten, so I will can swap PoF+Grace+AA for PoF+Grace+Anger. Still need fix my boots and gloves for better one and to work on my chaos resistance. Last edited by _Aldheart_#0589 on Aug 26, 2015, 5:20:55 AM	Posted by _Aldheart_#0589 on Aug 22, 2015, 4:47:42 PM Quote this Post
You will have to invest rather heavy in reduction / jewels / lvl 3/4 enlighten for that combination, and the real question is what is the real world dmg upgrade for anger vs the 10%+ reduction lost? Last edited by Therian#3949 on Aug 22, 2015, 8:24:11 PM	Posted by Therian#3949 on Aug 22, 2015, 6:21:35 PM Quote this Post
hello, thanks for this guide i am actually following it (but i'm a newbie in that game, somehow) i am currently level 68. however, i still can't run RF while my stats are : life : 3182 shield : 0 life renegeration per second : 417 (which is about 13% of my life) fire resistance (level 17 POF) : 79% (128%) when click on the skill, my life goes down quickly (about 18 seconds to go to 0) did i fail in something else ? or should i wait a higher POF ? or aim to more life regen ? the build on my level : https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwEAAdwEswUtBg4J9gxfFCAZLho4Gj4cpycvJ-0pLi_MMfs62DwtPfxBh0bXR35NRlOlValXDVhjWfNboF8_Yuxj_WVNaHRo8moBcYVyD3KpdO1343loeuZ8Dny4f-OCB4Kbg8yE2YTvjM-QVZSgl7SaO6IAp1WpbqyqrY23Pr02vqfAZsEEwYLEWMT2xq7G2M9-0iHUfNWm2WHZfNpi2rnaweFz7DjtPO8O8B_xrPJB9kj56A==?accountName=frenchlion&characterName=Macumba my items are crappy : any advice please ? it would be nice, thank you very much regards Last edited by frenchlion#0045 on Aug 23, 2015, 12:53:40 PM	Posted by frenchlion#0045 on Aug 23, 2015, 12:51:13 PM Quote this Post
" frenchlion wrote: hello, any advice please ? it would be nice, thank you very much regards The only thing you're missing to run RF is Rise of the Phoenix. After that you'll just need to work on getting a 5/6 link and work on making incinerate not lower your life by too much with RF up. There are a few ways to go about this. The best way is to get Elreon jewelry and drop the blood magic gem, however it might take a while to get some decent elreon jewelry. Another option is to replace blood magic with mana leech, which is probably the easiest option and the one I'd recommend until you get some elreon jewelry. If you decide to stick with blood magic, then you can try getting a high level/quality blood magic or getting more regen by using vitality or shaper's seed. Lastly, running Warlord's Mark as your curse and getting some fire damage leeched as life on your wand/belt will help regardless of what setup you go with.	Posted by GorshaDesse#1159 on Aug 23, 2015, 1:35:54 PM Quote this Post
thank you very much for the hints (i am already running with a level 17 blood magic on my incinerate) so basically, you think that these additional 8% of fire unlock will make a difference ? i just farmed the Solaris Temple like 20 times in a row without dropping 1 Divination Card. so it's going to take some time to have this shield :(	Posted by frenchlion#0045 on Aug 23, 2015, 3:01:51 PM Quote this Post