RaizQT's budget RF incinerator (Atziri killer build) 2.0 UPDATED!

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Karhunkynsi wrote:

I'm also running iron will setup in tempest, currently lvl 87. Shit gear and tooltip dps with rf incinerate lmp 6link 15k with lvl18 incinerate.. I honestly think this build needs some changes. I'm running elreon rings and reduced mana life nodes. My Incinerate manacost is 2. So there is no need for bloodmagic. Also it's just bad to go iron reflexes since determination is a multiplier wich affects your granite aswell. With rumis i got max 75 block. 5.6k life 7k armor running PoF, PoL and artic armor.

Don't go blood magic it is just bad. Last nodes what i'll pick will get my tooltip over 25k easy. And also when i get quality 20% support gems.

I cannot agree with you, about putting Determination above Grace+IR (for this build). Determination benefits, if you maxing armour, but while we got RotP =~300ar and f.e. Belly of the Beast =~650ar you are short of numbers atm. Also, good helmet for this build is Alpha's Howl - so if you not IR then 0 armour from head. 20lv Grace gives 2450? evasion, so it is usually as much as you gear armour on (300+650+ let’s say 3*500 for boots/gloves/helmet and +200belt =~2650). Assuming +200% armour nodes, Determination this way will give total =~11925, while Grace+IR =~15300 (extra armour and +2 aura lv if wearing Alpha's Howl =)). Yes, IR costs 5points, but I think (especially at hc mode) it's safer to have stable armour than count on flask.
My armour is almost 17k now after running grace. Heading to around 22k with fixing all passives and gear. I’m thinking to skip AA for Anger, because at ~80% reduction AA gives around extra 2% only.

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anakkk wrote:

For a long period of time i though that RF was a good source of damage. But lets do some math:

- Incinerate tooltip DPS = 15k. Which at stage 3 is 60k.
- RF burns for 50% of your life. It depends on a lot of things, but lets say that you get also 300% bonus, Which is 200% of your life. So, it might be around 16k.

Therefore, RF isnt your damage source.


Of course that this is only a brute idea. I don't have enough knowledgement on this area to rely on my calculation, but i know that incinerate kill stuff so fast that they cannot even reach my RF radius. So... I'd rather get spell/fire damage, +#% maximum life and stats/block/res on the jewels. Even a #% chance to knockback would be good.

True that RF isn't our main "source damage", but additional ~15/17k dps on boss fight is nice. I tried utilize other fire skill to fit our passives damage, but only Vaal Molten Shield are close base damage to (1735-2602, RF =~3000). Usually, for normal map mobs you will rarely forced to deal dmg by RF itself. This is substantial damage with low slot cost (2-3gems) and no breaking channeling, but on very close range. I'm swapping LMP to Slower Projectile for boss, it's 28% more damage but limits range.

Missing times, when Rf was dealing 100%... Armour/HP RF Marauders are retired, sadly...

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goldenflash wrote:

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cheechong123 wrote:

Raiz did a horrible job updateing this for killing atziri 2.0 if you ask me. switched to a iron will incen build 20 times better he updated a few lines then tossed it to the side told me i wasnt killing atzir counil cause i wasnt using flasks right this build is utter trash in forms of damage now iron will setup with brawn jewels with life and regen running vitality arctic armor and purity fire kill this setup ten fold using meginords vise and alberons boots and doon cuebaryi septre switched my build to this and actually kiled atziri with ease Raiz either needs to take another look or do something for his version definitely

Hi is it possible you can link your uild in here + the armour setup and its skills?
I might change to your build since im having problems aswell.

Cheers

Hey man if you look at my profile u can look at my char. go to ur profile at the end of the URL change ur name to my name then click deadlycheech thats my tree and gear it works fine with a 5 link just drop empower until 6 link. requires -8 eleon jewlers and mana cost reduction jewels. i run inc on no blood magic at 50 mana

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goldenflash wrote:

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cheechong123 wrote:

Raiz did a horrible job updateing this for killing atziri 2.0 if you ask me. switched to a iron will incen build 20 times better he updated a few lines then tossed it to the side told me i wasnt killing atzir counil cause i wasnt using flasks right this build is utter trash in forms of damage now iron will setup with brawn jewels with life and regen running vitality arctic armor and purity fire kill this setup ten fold using meginords vise and alberons boots and doon cuebaryi septre switched my build to this and actually kiled atziri with ease Raiz either needs to take another look or do something for his version definitely

Hi is it possible you can link your uild in here + the armour setup and its skills?
I might change to your build since im having problems aswell.

Cheers

Hey man if you look at my profile u can look at my char. go to ur profile at the end of the URL change ur name to my name then click deadlycheech thats my tree and gear it works fine with a 5 link just drop empower until 6 link. requires -8 eleon jewlers and mana cost reduction jewels. i run inc on no blood magic at 50 mana

Any reason why the links are broke been loving this build and progressing really well

Hey guys,

is this build still viable?
Or can someone post his tree / gear / gem setup?

I think this build is pretty nice, but i have actually big problems
with my survivability, especially if i get hit by projectiles.
2-3 hits and i am dead.

The build is definitely still viable. I've just recently switched to Doon CuebiYari and Elreon jewelry, so my build is a bit different now, but I can post my gear from before and after the switch. The damage with Doon and Iron will is significantly higher than without, even though I don't have much strength from my gear yet; so it's looking like Doon/Iron Will + Elreon Jewelry is the best route to go. My only question is if it's better to go RF incinerate or dual incierate totem, because the builds are pretty similar.



My current skill tree at 86. I decided to get all the life nodes first, I'm going to get some block nodes next, and then some more jewel slots. I haven't decided if I'm going to get Iron Reflexes.

The items at the end, starting at the wand are what I used before switching to the Doon and the Elreon jewelry. I used either blood magic or mana leech(I prefered mana leech, not sure why no one else has mentioned it) to sustain incinerate before the Elreon jewelry.

Before I ran Arctic Armour and Purity of Fire, and now I have room for a third aura, which for now I'm trying out Vitality, but I'm considering Purity of Lightning or possibly getting an Alpha's Howl/Enlighten and dropping a CWDT gem to make room for a more expensive aura like grace or determination.

For anyone having trouble keeping their life up and having to spam potions I would recommend running warlord's mark and getting some life leech on your wand and/or belt or switching from blood magic to mana leech. Alternatively, you could get more regen from running vitality or using shaper's seed, but that probably wouldn't be as effective.

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Karhunkynsi wrote:

I'm also running iron will setup in tempest, currently lvl 87. Shit gear and tooltip dps with rf incinerate lmp 6link 15k with lvl18 incinerate.. I honestly think this build needs some changes. I'm running elreon rings and reduced mana life nodes. My Incinerate manacost is 2. So there is no need for bloodmagic. Also it's just bad to go iron reflexes since determination is a multiplier wich affects your granite aswell. With rumis i got max 75 block. 5.6k life 7k armor running PoF, PoL and artic armor.

Don't go blood magic it is just bad. Last nodes what i'll pick will get my tooltip over 25k easy. And also when i get quality 20% support gems.

I cannot agree with you, about putting Determination above Grace+IR (for this build). Determination benefits, if you maxing armour, but while we got RotP =~300ar and f.e. Belly of the Beast =~650ar you are short of numbers atm. Also, good helmet for this build is Alpha's Howl - so if you not IR then 0 armour from head. 20lv Grace gives 2450? evasion, so it is usually as much as you gear armour on (300+650+ let’s say 3*500 for boots/gloves/helmet and +200belt =~2650). Assuming +200% armour nodes, Determination this way will give total =~11925, while Grace+IR =~15300 (extra armour and +2 aura lv if wearing Alpha's Howl =)). Yes, IR costs 5points, but I think (especially at hc mode) it's safer to have stable armour than count on flask.
My armour is almost 17k now after running grace. Heading to around 22k with fixing all passives and gear. I’m thinking to skip AA for Anger, because at ~80% reduction AA gives around extra 2% only.

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anakkk wrote:

For a long period of time i though that RF was a good source of damage. But lets do some math:

- Incinerate tooltip DPS = 15k. Which at stage 3 is 60k.
- RF burns for 50% of your life. It depends on a lot of things, but lets say that you get also 300% bonus, Which is 200% of your life. So, it might be around 16k.

Therefore, RF isnt your damage source.


Of course that this is only a brute idea. I don't have enough knowledgement on this area to rely on my calculation, but i know that incinerate kill stuff so fast that they cannot even reach my RF radius. So... I'd rather get spell/fire damage, +#% maximum life and stats/block/res on the jewels. Even a #% chance to knockback would be good.

True that RF isn't our main "source damage", but additional ~15/17k dps on boss fight is nice. I tried utilize other fire skill to fit our passives damage, but only Vaal Molten Shield are close base damage to (1735-2602, RF =~3000). Usually, for normal map mobs you will rarely forced to deal dmg by RF itself. This is substantial damage with low slot cost (2-3gems) and no breaking channeling, but on very close range. I'm swapping LMP to Slower Projectile for boss, it's 28% more damage but limits range.

Missing times, when Rf was dealing 100%... Armour/HP RF Marauders are retired, sadly...

I haveto disagree with this, if you're going IW setup with doons ur best in slot helm is Black Sun Crest. And belly gives only like 700 hp more while you could get +2k armor chest with high str and life.

I was running purity of lightning, purity of fire and arctic armor with enlighten. I died to Corrupting blood yesterday while was watching a movie on other screen. :p

When i died on tempest, made few atziri runs at standard and ironwill doons setup can do it with ease.

The build is very viable with few changes. Just go elreon jewellery late game and iron will for massive damage boost.

What are people using for CWDT setups with this build now? I am still using the original, CWDT-Enduring Cry-Immortal Call-Increased duration but was wondering if there was somthing better that makes sense.

Thanks

Hi guys !

just starting my first maurauder with this build.
What do you recommend as leveling items ?

For the moment I start with a lifesprig.

Thx !

Can someone please tell me what Jewels RaizQT was using to level the latest RF Incinerate Spell Totem build he has now...

I saw Rain of Splinters gem which I put in the left side of the tree but was wondering what jewel he put in the space above it??

Also What is the best 4link for a Spell Totem Incinerate? SpellTotem>Incinerate>FasterProj>Faster Casting is what I did...I see he has Add Lightning Damage in his 5 link.


Any info would be awesome.