RaizQT's budget RF incinerator (Atziri killer build) 2.0 UPDATED!

Yeah, you need Rise of the Phoenix to sustain RF. Just buy one, they're extremely cheap.
I change Blood magic to Mana leech. Having 23 mana regen and Mana leech, it's enough to support 21-24 mana cost Incinerate with GMP or 14-16 mana cost with Faster Projectiles. Tooltip dps without RF - 7.5k with RF - 12.1k. Also I have Warlord's Mark for tough situations.
out of chroms, need change Item Rarity to Fire Penetration.
Work nice for 5l too.
Last edited by Nekrond#4272 on Aug 23, 2015, 4:37:58 PM
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_Aldheart_ wrote:
Not finished yet, but aleady 90% phy reduction (76/77 maps).
Extra +10 to respect for Fortify =]

Defence


VS boss Incinerate 5L (6L on screenshot, but my Inc is 19lv and Empower 2lv = Inc 20lv)

singe dps




Waiting for 90lv and I'm going to drop Chaos Golem from CWDT and use Fire Golem + Minion Life. Rallying Cry will be also nice boost. Leveling Enlighten, so I will can swap PoF+Grace+AA for PoF+Grace+Anger. Still need fix my boots and gloves for better one and to work on my chaos resistance.

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Therian wrote:
You will have to invest rather heavy in reduction / jewels / lvl 3/4 enlighten for that combination, and the real question is what is the real world dmg upgrade for anger vs the 10%+ reduction lost?


If we use math, AA at 90% reduction is "not real" 12%, but 12% from 10%... so more or less like 1-2%, dependence of celling. Since fire res and phys reduction is high, I don't see reason to keep it, else on strong bosses. My Anger at 18lv adds approximately 2,2k dps, might hit 3,5 or more with fixed passives and items.
Last edited by _Aldheart_#0589 on Aug 26, 2015, 4:59:41 AM
Has anyone tried, or does anyone have an opinion, on using Daresso's Defiance rather than Belly of the Beast? I know that I'd be losing a lot of life, but the movement and cast speed boosts from onslaught seem like they would work nicely with this build, plus it makes CWDT IC much easier since self-casting EC is a slight nuisance.
Guys, can someone tell me, why fire penetration is better than iron will in setup with incinerate? When I use fire penetration my dps is lower.
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Mateo7767 wrote:
Guys, can someone tell me, why fire penetration is better than iron will in setup with incinerate? When I use fire penetration my dps is lower.

With Fire penetration your dps TOOLTIP lower, not real dps.
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Mateo7767 wrote:
Guys, can someone tell me, why fire penetration is better than iron will in setup with incinerate? When I use fire penetration my dps is lower.


DPS on tooltip is the max you can get. Real DPS depends on the monster's fire resistance.

Lets say that you are going to kill atziri, and lets presume she has 75% fire resistance.
If you don't have fire penetration, you are going to deal (1-75%)=25% of your DPS tooltip to her.

Now, if you use a Fire Penetration lvl 20 on your link, you are going to get 37% fire penetration on resistance. This means that her fire resistance is going to work as (75-37)=38%
So if you have fire penetration, you are going to deal (1-38%)=62% of your DPS tooltip to her.

As you can see, using fire penetration on a monster that has 75% fire resistance end up doind (62/25)=2,5 times more damage. It means that if you iron will doesnt make your DPS 2,5 times bigger, its better to use fire penetration against atziri.

We can use a similar calculations to get the real DPS against monsters with 0% fire resistance:
- No fire penetration: 100% of the damage
- Fire penetration lvl 20: 137% of the damage

So, even if the monster doesnt have any fire resistance at all, it only justifies to use iron will if it adds more than (137/100)=1,37 times your DPS.


For any further question, check:
- http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Penetration
- http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Fire_Penetration
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i just farmed the Solaris Temple like 20 times in a row without dropping 1 Divination Card.

so it's going to take some time to have this shield :(


Pm me in game(nickname SpiderFromMars), i'll give u rise of the phoenix for free on standard.
Is it HC viable ?
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anakkk wrote:
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Mateo7767 wrote:
Guys, can someone tell me, why fire penetration is better than iron will in setup with incinerate? When I use fire penetration my dps is lower.


DPS on tooltip is the max you can get. Real DPS depends on the monster's fire resistance.

Lets say that you are going to kill atziri, and lets presume she has 75% fire resistance.
If you don't have fire penetration, you are going to deal (1-75%)=25% of your DPS tooltip to her.

Now, if you use a Fire Penetration lvl 20 on your link, you are going to get 37% fire penetration on resistance. This means that her fire resistance is going to work as (75-37)=38%
So if you have fire penetration, you are going to deal (1-38%)=62% of your DPS tooltip to her.

As you can see, using fire penetration on a monster that has 75% fire resistance end up doind (62/25)=2,5 times more damage. It means that if you iron will doesnt make your DPS 2,5 times bigger, its better to use fire penetration against atziri.

We can use a similar calculations to get the real DPS against monsters with 0% fire resistance:
- No fire penetration: 100% of the damage
- Fire penetration lvl 20: 137% of the damage

So, even if the monster doesnt have any fire resistance at all, it only justifies to use iron will if it adds more than (137/100)=1,37 times your DPS.


For any further question, check:
- http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Penetration
- http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Fire_Penetration


Thank you anakkk very much!

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