Lightning Thorns

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Duskbane wrote:
The change to lightning thorns in this patch has completely invalidated my level 83 character, and I'm fucking pissed about it.

I have a physical bow character and even with capped resists, capped life leech, and 34 life gain on hit, I can fire one shot at a lightning thorns enemy and lose HALF MY HEALTH. I just died in a level 66 map because I fired one split arrow at a pack of charging shield enemies... with 3000 hp and capped lightning resist. ONE SHOT. Elemental reflect has NOTHING on this now... this shit NEEDS TO BE FIXED.

Nothing else that has been done to this game has made me feel this, but I really just don't feel like playing my level 83 character anymore until this is fixed. There's no excuse for this.

Edit: You know what? After thinking, I think if LT is going to be this broken, it should just affect everything. Make it affect spellcasts too.

My level 79 marauder friend has 6500 HP and 81% resist and it was taking chunks of his health every time he attacked with HEAVY STRIKE. Not splashing either, just single hits.


It does affect spell casts, at least the Freeze Pulse character i have gets the reflects now too, and well.. GMP.. need i say more than that i also nearly oneshotted myself with it earlier? :)
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zoneslash wrote:
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Duskbane wrote:
The change to lightning thorns in this patch has completely invalidated my level 83 character, and I'm fucking pissed about it.

I have a physical bow character and even with capped resists, capped life leech, and 34 life gain on hit, I can fire one shot at a lightning thorns enemy and lose HALF MY HEALTH. I just died in a level 66 map because I fired one split arrow at a pack of charging shield enemies... with 3000 hp and capped lightning resist. ONE SHOT. Elemental reflect has NOTHING on this now... this shit NEEDS TO BE FIXED.

Nothing else that has been done to this game has made me feel this, but I really just don't feel like playing my level 83 character anymore until this is fixed. There's no excuse for this.

Edit: You know what? After thinking, I think if LT is going to be this broken, it should just affect everything. Make it affect spellcasts too.

My level 79 marauder friend has 6500 HP and 81% resist and it was taking chunks of his health every time he attacked with HEAVY STRIKE. Not splashing either, just single hits.


It does affect spell casts, at least the Freeze Pulse character i have gets the reflects now too, and well.. GMP.. need i say more than that i also nearly oneshotted myself with it earlier? :)


So is it changed to affect projectiles, maybe?

Regardless, it needs to be dropped in damage. There's no reason I should kill myself instantly with 3000 hp and capped resist. Even my friend firing lightning arrows doesn't die to one shot of elemental reflect... lightning thorns hits HARDER than reflect and people complain about it constantly.
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Duskbane wrote:

So is it changed to affect projectiles, maybe?

Regardless, it needs to be dropped in damage. There's no reason I should kill myself instantly with 3000 hp and capped resist. Even my friend firing lightning arrows doesn't die to one shot of elemental reflect... lightning thorns hits HARDER than reflect and people complain about it constantly.


Of course it does, it seems to do a spell damage counter similar to tempest shield so it doesn't matter how much damage you did, the only difference is that it works on every attack and tempest works on block. Why doesn't tempest shield work like that? It would be cheap and probably break pvp even more then it already is, we don't have that skill for the same reason we don't have immortality aura or 100% crit aura that enemies use, in fact, most enemy skills are stronger then ours. Ever dominated a rare with haste aura? Enjoy your 20 seconds of being the Flash.

If you use attacks on reflect enemies you can evade and dodge reflected damage or mitigate it with armor, it uses enemy's attack rating, not yours so it's even easier. So of course, lightning thorns hits harder, the only thing that should work on it is spell evade and spell block if you have it, even with 80 resist it still does a lot of damage on every strike and many skill setups do quite a lot of strikes per use, LA+lmp+chain, cyclone...
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Last edited by raics#7540 on Apr 12, 2013, 11:10:10 AM
Love the changes to Lightning thorns os much easier now and ranged that want to complain can take the advice ranged characters gave us when it only effected melee
Abyssus Crit Cleave - http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/381106
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Imml wrote:
Love the changes to Lightning thorns os much easier now and ranged that want to complain can take the advice ranged characters gave us when it only effected melee


"If it bothers you, play ranged, I never even notice LT enemies"

That the one? Very constructive, insightful and most of all, witty.
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Last edited by raics#7540 on Apr 12, 2013, 11:30:03 AM
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Imml wrote:
Love the changes to Lightning thorns os much easier now and ranged that want to complain can take the advice ranged characters gave us when it only effected melee


You have no idea how happy those changes made me. They even reduced the damage and now ranged characters are still crying about it.
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Tabx wrote:
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Imml wrote:
Love the changes to Lightning thorns os much easier now and ranged that want to complain can take the advice ranged characters gave us when it only effected melee


You have no idea how happy those changes made me. They even reduced the damage and now ranged characters are still crying about it.


I never said once that it shouldn't affect ranged. I think it should affect all damage sources. I also think that it needs to be toned down A LOT. The reduction in damage was clearly not enough.
i too fas fo youuuuuuu
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raics wrote:
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Imml wrote:
Love the changes to Lightning thorns os much easier now and ranged that want to complain can take the advice ranged characters gave us when it only effected melee


"If it bothers you, play ranged, I never even notice LT enemies"

That the one? Very constructive, insightful and most of all, witty.


We were also told that we were over reacting and to get lightning resist as well as kite more and use single target attacks
Abyssus Crit Cleave - http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/381106
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Imml wrote:
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raics wrote:
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Imml wrote:
Love the changes to Lightning thorns os much easier now and ranged that want to complain can take the advice ranged characters gave us when it only effected melee


"If it bothers you, play ranged, I never even notice LT enemies"

That the one? Very constructive, insightful and most of all, witty.


We were also told that we were over reacting and to get lightning resist as well as kite more and use single target attacks


Countless quotes could be dug up telling melee to "get over it" or "get better". It seems that once the shoe is on the other foot however it is suddenly can not be overcome by the very methods melee were told to cultivate to get past them.


Humorously, with the damage reduced. They bother me MUCH less now than they did. And yet that reduced damage is enough to have the ranged folk crying foul. How do you think it felt with shield chargers, and the higher damage on us face to face?

Alexis
*smiles*
Have any of you tried lightning resist rings? Or maybe not standing so close to a group of them? I think single target attacks would help too...I don't know why you're having problems -- everything is O.K. on my side!

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Seriously though, they've been OP for as long as I've met them. I'm still not getting over this reaction. It's sweet, sweet karma. Better than Warlock nerfs in TBC.

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