Lightning Thorns

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Tabx wrote:


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Seriously though, they've been OP for as long as I've met them. I'm still not getting over this reaction. It's sweet, sweet karma. Better than Warlock nerfs in TBC.


TBC Warlock tears, this comes close. And is likewise justified. Lightning Thorns is bollocks. The main difference is that now EVERYONE feels that way, not just melee.


Alexis
*smiles*
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Tabx wrote:
Have any of you tried lightning resist rings? Or maybe not standing so close to a group of them? I think single target attacks would help too...I don't know why you're having problems -- everything is O.K. on my side!

Spoiler
Seriously though, they've been OP for as long as I've met them. I'm still not getting over this reaction. It's sweet, sweet karma. Better than Warlock nerfs in TBC.


I don't think you read a word I said. I have capped resist already, and 3000 hp, and firing a single shot with Frenzy hits me for nearly half my HP. If I fire a split arrow, I die IMMEDIATELY.

And it's actually worse on ranged than on melee -- as melee, you could potentially leap slam to the casters and beat them up instead, but if you're ranged and in a tight corridor like a Tunnel map with the blackguards in the back, there is NO WAY to hit them without dying. You just have to give up your map.

Ironically, melee now has it better vs LT than ranged does.

But I'm not the only one complaining; my marauder buddy with 6500 hp and 81% lightning res says he still takes insane damage from just one ground slam. Clearly this ability is out of whack.
i too fas fo youuuuuuu
I have yet to run into the new lightning thorns on my EK Shadow, but I imagine I'm going to be using bear traps alot.
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Duskbane wrote:
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Tabx wrote:
Have any of you tried lightning resist rings? Or maybe not standing so close to a group of them? I think single target attacks would help too...I don't know why you're having problems -- everything is O.K. on my side!

Spoiler
Seriously though, they've been OP for as long as I've met them. I'm still not getting over this reaction. It's sweet, sweet karma. Better than Warlock nerfs in TBC.


I don't think you read a word I said. I have capped resist already, and 3000 hp, and firing a single shot with Frenzy hits me for nearly half my HP. If I fire a split arrow, I die IMMEDIATELY.

And it's actually worse on ranged than on melee -- as melee, you could potentially leap slam to the casters and beat them up instead, but if you're ranged and in a tight corridor like a Tunnel map with the blackguards in the back, there is NO WAY to hit them without dying. You just have to give up your map.

Ironically, melee now has it better vs LT than ranged does.

But I'm not the only one complaining; my marauder buddy with 6500 hp and 81% lightning res says he still takes insane damage from just one ground slam. Clearly this ability is out of whack.


ranged can use leap slam as well(weapon swap) also that lightning warp skill
also get more lightning resist

edit: Life leech and life on hit help
Abyssus Crit Cleave - http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/381106
Last edited by Imml#5503 on Apr 12, 2013, 12:52:03 PM
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Last edited by Hooligan#7711 on Apr 12, 2013, 1:11:44 PM
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Cailieg wrote:
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Imml wrote:

We were also told that we were over reacting and to get lightning resist as well as kite more and use single target attacks


Countless quotes could be dug up telling melee to "get over it" or "get better". It seems that once the shoe is on the other foot however it is suddenly can not be overcome by the very methods melee were told to cultivate to get past them.


Humorously, with the damage reduced. They bother me MUCH less now than they did. And yet that reduced damage is enough to have the ranged folk crying foul. How do you think it felt with shield chargers, and the higher damage on us face to face?

Alexis
*smiles*


I must say, reading the first few pages of this thread then reading the last few is pretty hilarious. I wonder if any of the ranged characters complaining about it now were the same ones telling melees they were noobs for not knowing how to mitigate it before it affected ranged (and did more damage).
IGN: Jihokinetic
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Imml wrote:
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Duskbane wrote:
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Tabx wrote:
Have any of you tried lightning resist rings? Or maybe not standing so close to a group of them? I think single target attacks would help too...I don't know why you're having problems -- everything is O.K. on my side!

Spoiler
Seriously though, they've been OP for as long as I've met them. I'm still not getting over this reaction. It's sweet, sweet karma. Better than Warlock nerfs in TBC.


I don't think you read a word I said. I have capped resist already, and 3000 hp, and firing a single shot with Frenzy hits me for nearly half my HP. If I fire a split arrow, I die IMMEDIATELY.

And it's actually worse on ranged than on melee -- as melee, you could potentially leap slam to the casters and beat them up instead, but if you're ranged and in a tight corridor like a Tunnel map with the blackguards in the back, there is NO WAY to hit them without dying. You just have to give up your map.

Ironically, melee now has it better vs LT than ranged does.

But I'm not the only one complaining; my marauder buddy with 6500 hp and 81% lightning res says he still takes insane damage from just one ground slam. Clearly this ability is out of whack.


ranged can use leap slam as well(weapon swap) also that lightning warp skill
also get more lightning resist

edit: Life leech and life on hit help


PLEASE READ MY POSTS BEFORE POSTING USELESS CRAP!
I have CAPPED LIGHTNING RESIST, and I have CAPPED LIFE LEECH and a LEVEL 19 LIFE ON HIT GEM!

NONE OF THAT MATTERS!

I'm tired of repeating it for you only to ignore it!

Anyway, keep bumping this thread, maybe GGG will see and realize there's a problem!
i too fas fo youuuuuuu
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Duskbane wrote:


PLEASE READ MY POSTS BEFORE POSTING USELESS CRAP!
I have CAPPED LIGHTNING RESIST, and I have CAPPED LIFE LEECH and a LEVEL 19 LIFE ON HIT GEM!

NONE OF THAT MATTERS!

I'm tired of repeating it for you only to ignore it!

Anyway, keep bumping this thread, maybe GGG will see and realize there's a problem!


Matbe try fighting the mobs from range or kiting then that should work also single target the witches
Abyssus Crit Cleave - http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/381106
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Imml wrote:

Matbe try fighting the mobs from range or kiting then that should work also single target the witches


A jolly good suggestion my dear sir, it just doesn't do to blindly charge and spam your skills, you need tactics. I will suggest rain of arrows or rat poison as especially effective witch-killers.

Or... maybe just remove your chained-mp'd lightning and cold arrows from hotbar as I do with cyclone.
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Last edited by raics#7540 on Apr 12, 2013, 2:24:26 PM
the changes sucks. one of the few challenging mobs in the game, and they nerf em... and those rumors 6500hp, 80 resists,... getiin one shoted, are bullshit. i have 5.5k 10k dps sinlge target and 7k dps cleave, how can i tank 2-3 even 4 with thorns on em? and that was before the last patch, now me and me friends dont even mind em. GGG shouldnt listen to all the crying.

ohh and when i saw the changelog, i was 100% sure the first thing ill see about the thorns, will be ranged crying about em. and now they are even nerfed!

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