Lightning Thorns

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Drahken wrote:

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Duskbane wrote:

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just use poison arrow.

A good direction for the game to be going in would be to increase the amount of skill gems that can be viably used.

A bad direction is to decrease the set of viable skill gems.

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HopTortoise wrote:

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Drahken wrote:

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Duskbane wrote:

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just use poison arrow.

A good direction for the game to be going in would be to increase the amount of skill gems that can be viably used.

A bad direction is to decrease the set of viable skill gems.

he told me to use skills I don't use, to get the job done.

I am offering him an even better solution for a ranged to get the job done.

I have an LA.. I use PA with 2 support gems on a side piece and it handles the problem easily.

are you telling me a few mobs with LT just made LA unviable?

you are so full of shit.

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Drahken wrote:

A bad direction is to decrease the set of viable skill gems

he told me to use skills I don't use, to get the job done.

I am offering him an even better solution for a ranged to get the job done.

I have an LA.. I use PA with 2 support gems on a side piece and it handles the problem easily.

are you telling me a few mobs with LT just made LA unviable?

you are so full of shit.

suicide buttons do have a tendency to destroy the long term viability of a build, yes. they do have that feature.

as nobody is perfect and a bad volley can gib my character? yes, it seems like i will have to use a different build.

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Drahken wrote:

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HopTortoise wrote:

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Drahken wrote:

just use poison arrow.

A good direction for the game to be going in would be to increase the amount of skill gems that can be viably used.

A bad direction is to decrease the set of viable skill gems.

he told me to use skills I don't use, to get the job done.

I am offering him an even better solution for a ranged to get the job done.

I have an LA.. I use PA with 2 support gems on a side piece and it handles the problem easily.

are you telling me a few mobs with LT just made LA unviable?

you are so full of shit.

Are you telling me I have to use X ability or my build doesn't work?
Because that's what all the ranged were telling you before about your cyclone build and you just HATED that shit.

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HopTortoise wrote:

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Drahken wrote:

A bad direction is to decrease the set of viable skill gems

he told me to use skills I don't use, to get the job done.

I am offering him an even better solution for a ranged to get the job done.

I have an LA.. I use PA with 2 support gems on a side piece and it handles the problem easily.

are you telling me a few mobs with LT just made LA unviable?

you are so full of shit.

suicide buttons do have a tendency to destroy the long term viability of a build, yes. they do have that feature.

as nobody is perfect and a bad volley can gib my character? yes, it seems like i will have to use a different build.

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Duskbane wrote:

Are you telling me I have to use X ability or my build doesn't work?
Because that's what all the ranged were telling you before about your cyclone build and you just HATED that shit.

can you read? at all?

you just told me your solution as melee is to use a set of skills and I didnt argue it..
I just told you as ranged to use poison arrow when you run into a pack of LT and your problem is solved.
It was okay when ranged users were telling melee to be crafty and use a set of skills on the side to avoid it with your main skill (cyclone).. but apparently I can't tell you an even easier solution for ranged?

Ran Promenade map today. I knew the last boss casts lightning thorns. As soon as I saw the boss I retreated far enough away to safely swap out some gems. I put quality LGOH and 8% LL gem into my attack. I have over 5k hp and 80% all resist. Started in on boss, everything was going great, hp not moving. Then in the MIDDLE of a multistrike animation, boss casts lightning thorns and I died INSTANTLY. This ability is broken beyond anything else in this game. There should be nothing and I mean nothing that can kill me with 68 life per hit, 8% life leech, 11% physical life leech in less than 1/2 second. NOTHING. Fix it, please this is not a fun mechanic.

I'm all for hard mechanics, but instantly pwning yourself with zero time to react even after careful planning is absolutely game breaking for me.

I wish I were lying or exaggerating about how quickly thorns kills, but I am not. We need SOME time to react/retreat and heal, something ffs.

Agree, this thing need to be nerfed, no way im dying like retarded for that shit. Sometime i cant do anything and i just leave the map, i HAD problem with reflect but this thorn its fucking OP.

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Dragon585 wrote:

Ran Promenade map today. I knew the last boss casts lightning thorns. As soon as I saw the boss I retreated far enough away to safely swap out some gems. I put quality LGOH and 8% LL gem into my attack. I have over 5k hp and 80% all resist. Started in on boss, everything was going great, hp not moving. Then in the MIDDLE of a multistrike animation, boss casts lightning thorns and I died INSTANTLY. This ability is broken beyond anything else in this game. There should be nothing and I mean nothing that can kill me with 68 life per hit, 8% life leech, 11% physical life leech in less than 1/2 second. NOTHING. Fix it.

I'm all for hard mechanics, but instantly pwning yourself with zero time to react even after careful planning is absolutely game breaking for me.

I wish I were lying or exaggerating about how quickly thorns kills, but I am not. We need SOME time to react/retreat and heal, something ffs.

Yeah, this is just a bad idea. There's a difference between countering a popular playstyle and making the playstyle just suddenly not work completely every once in a while.

No build should be a cookie cutter.

I am glad Ranged got nerfed (Physical/Elemental) in where they take damage from Lightning Thorns.

Most of the LA builds now can somewhat understand how melee get instantly one shot when LT appears out of no where.

Whoever suggested it above was right. Use Poison Arrow.

In Diablo 2, you could not complete certain acts efficiently without the use of your Mercenary and another spell. If you were a Blizz Sorc you need to grab a point in Lightning or Fireball to kill resist mobs.

The same thing should apply to PoE, I have several different skills on my bar for instances in where I need to use different skills from different curses to different auras and different skills.

I do not just use Cleave on my Dual Wielding Shadow, I use Leap Slam, Dual Strike and totems too.