[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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Just bought another pair of boots, that helped a bit with resists, all capped now. I can try with buying a ring that would cap all my res without amulet that gives +15 all res. I also forgot about jewels, they will definitely help a lot with getting 5k+ like and resists with bisco equipped. Seems like I want to keep my life flask, so I will just roll anti-bleed on diamond flask and leave them for now.

Do you recommend running TS or Lightning Arrow? Because I feel like second option is faster, but maybe I'm missing some TS mechanics.

Thanks a lot for your post!


To me the Lightning Arrow feels a lot better, it will require a weapon/chest swap for single-target though, Tornado Shot can be used both as clear skill and single-target, though i don't like it much, only time it feels better is for Breaches IMO. It might feel better if you have a lot of +projectiles.

Can always try a few different setups though, i played Lightning Arrow + Pierce, current bow toon is Ice Shot + Chain though, play around with Pierce/Chain/Fork and see what feels better to you :)

Your rings are really good, not sure if i'd replace them, you have good life/resists and int/str which helps a ton with gem/gear requirements, also the crafted phys, an upgrade will likely cost a lot.
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Phosphenez wrote:
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Just bought another pair of boots, that helped a bit with resists, all capped now. I can try with buying a ring that would cap all my res without amulet that gives +15 all res. I also forgot about jewels, they will definitely help a lot with getting 5k+ like and resists with bisco equipped. Seems like I want to keep my life flask, so I will just roll anti-bleed on diamond flask and leave them for now.

Do you recommend running TS or Lightning Arrow? Because I feel like second option is faster, but maybe I'm missing some TS mechanics.

Thanks a lot for your post!


To me the Lightning Arrow feels a lot better, it will require a weapon/chest swap for single-target though, Tornado Shot can be used both as clear skill and single-target, though i don't like it much, only time it feels better is for Breaches IMO. It might feel better if you have a lot of +projectiles.

Can always try a few different setups though, i played Lightning Arrow + Pierce, current bow toon is Ice Shot + Chain though, play around with Pierce/Chain/Fork and see what feels better to you :)

Your rings are really good, not sure if i'd replace them, you have good life/resists and int/str which helps a ton with gem/gear requirements, also the crafted phys, an upgrade will likely cost a lot.


I have 6L belly somewhere in my stash, not sure if colors are right (it's corrupted), but I can try to do single target swap with that piece, because Lightning Arrow is indeed really bad for single target.

Bought pair of gloves to swap my amulet to bisco, all resistances capped, requirements met, like 2k DPS lost, but it will make small difference in farming I guess.
Kind of hit a dead end here , having a hard time with bosses cant kill guardians or uber atziri or shaper i dont believe my gear is all that bad it just isnt enough

heres a path of building link , would appreciate any tips

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Anyone did Uber Atziri in this patch? I struggle very hard, but not on her or the trio, I cant do vaal vessel fight without 4-6 deaths and everytime it is because of the ball lightning attack. With maxed out resist, kaom, topaz flask and 55% spell dodge I simply die if this skill touches me and avoiding it completely looks to me often impossible. If there are two waves or vessel is at bottom/top I cant even blink past it because the blink distance is smaller than the radius where ball lighting can arc.

This is my first time playing the endgame so I obviously have l2p a lot still, but even shaper was easier for me. So my questions is if there is something more that I can do on this build, other than grinding it (running low on currency) for some lucky vaal vessel positions and attack rolls or getting help, to deal with this BS.
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sodantok wrote:
Anyone did Uber Atziri in this patch? I struggle very hard, but not on her or the trio, I cant do vaal vessel fight without 4-6 deaths and everytime it is because of the ball lightning attack. With maxed out resist, kaom, topaz flask and 55% spell dodge I simply die if this skill touches me and avoiding it completely looks to me often impossible. If there are two waves or vessel is at bottom/top I cant even blink past it because the blink distance is smaller than the radius where ball lighting can arc.

This is my first time playing the endgame so I obviously have l2p a lot still, but even shaper was easier for me. So my questions is if there is something more that I can do on this build, other than grinding it (running low on currency) for some lucky vaal vessel positions and attack rolls or getting help, to deal with this BS.


The title of the thread is misleading, since the included video is from multiple patches ago lmao.

If you wanna kill Uber, you're in the wrong thread.
Fake Temp League Elitists LUL
Hello there

I have great clearing fast enough for t15 abyss and esh and xoph domain, but when i get to the boss my damage are just too low without any means to get full frenzy

i managed to do abyss boss (Kaom) because the arena is large enough, some minions spawn so i can sustain my flasks .. but esh and xoph are just too aoe. i did put xoph to mid hp but with two portals left i surrendered (asked for a friend to kill it)

so question is

What can i do to improve my single target dmg ?

Thanks for helping
Similar question to those above me, but my damage against bosses in higher tier maps is pretty poor. I'm using the first build (TS) and I'd like to know what, if any, options for bows there are late game other than rare Harbinger's as Lioneye's isn't cutting it for me. Is it even possible to solo endgame content without the necessary 15+ex you'd need to spend for a a good rare bow?
true that 15-20ex for naught is going to hurt

Can someone with free time write up a quick simulation please? I want numbers
(With your stuff or more or less the recommended stuff)

1)With a Lioneyes and 5L TS : Damage with Hatred + Hoi + 7frenzy + atziri promise + Dying sun

2)Same thing but all gems at 20quality

3)Same with 6L

4)Same with 6L with 20quality

Thanks for the guy with free time
Doing the Scion LA build. How do you leech mana and Life? Warlords?
Hi guys, how do I link my character here?

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