Live preparation of 1.2.0 patch notes

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Mivo wrote:

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Charan wrote:

Won't have to wait long. bwahaha.

What for? Having an opinion that you disagree with? Or for stealing your spotlight after you spent 30 or 40 pages gloating how you knew all the changes in advance and how Chris shared everything with you?

You are far more antagonizing than Veruski.

+1

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xiltex wrote:

i'm actly with veruski here. at the current end game state, its just uber. and i come from garena server (the SG version). people either play and get lucky, made currency and did uber, or play until their lvl80s and quit due to end game to us = uber. And our community is very, and i mean VERY small. this just doesn't attract new players, well at least in our case.

if u cant do uber, u might as well quit. that's just how our community works, majority of us that is.

on topic: WHY NERF FRENZY............................

I didn't agree with those gloves the moment I saw them. But they exist and I am fairly sure GGG are over OP legacies. Making the drop rate ridiculously low may be their only recourse at this point. But my stance remains: items like this that very few people will acquire but everyone can know about and thus desire, around which the so called best players create the builds so called lesser players want to mimic... They're just a bad idea.

As for Frenzy: Poacher's Mark may have something to do with it.

So should I start with CI fpulser or split ranger with 1,5k instant flasks? ^_^?

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Charan wrote:

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Fanaberia wrote:

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Charan wrote:

Generosity works with minions.

Thank you.

You are most welcome!

That said, I may be wrong. The wording indicates it will, and I've been using it with SRS, but I can't really prove it works.

Your word on it is enough of a prove for me.

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Odoakar wrote:

Are they really that mandatory? It's not possible to do lvl 78 maps without them?

if you want to run the high tier builds, they are mandatory.

it's either that or vaal pact (which is shit, and costs like a thousand skillpoints to get)

ambush was ALREADY like this. literally the only endgame was kill uber.

now it will be even more emphasized. kill uber again and again and again.

Reasoning behind the Frenzy nerf? If it's just to balance with the Rampage leagues kill streak buffs then I must say that's pretty stink, as I don't think I've ever heard anyone say Frenzy was strong or OP.

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Mivo wrote:

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Charan wrote:

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Are we ready for Charan thread now?

On a serious note, Veruski's concerns are valid on some aspect and on other he seems to exaggerate beyond good and evil. It doesn't help that the discussion is just badly structured around here and better fits an own thread in feedback were people will take the thread up to willingly discuss these concerns.

Also Veruski's posts hint that the issue has many confounding underlying issues beneath, one being the bad design behind the SotV end-game in general, which was dreamed of by a small hardcore audience and surprise, pisses this one off now.

You know guys... there's a good reason Ad Hominem attacks aren't allowed here.

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Veruski wrote:

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Odoakar wrote:

Are they really that mandatory? It's not possible to do lvl 78 maps without them?

if you want to run the high tier builds, they are mandatory.

it's either that or vaal pact (which is shit, and costs like a thousand skillpoints to get)

ambush was ALREADY like this. literally the only endgame was kill uber.

now it will be even more emphasized. kill uber again and again and again.

That's like saying Rise of the Phoenix is mandatory for some builds. Yes indeed it is, but if you don't like it, don't do a RF build. If you want the bestest build, well, save up for them, like you would for a 6l shavs.

I know the builds you're referring to, and they do indeed work without the gloves, although with a twist.

Now can we please move on ?