[2.1 Ghazzy - Summoner Guides] Low Budget Builds

Thanks for the reply ghazzy.

I was just wondering if it is possible to give sort a benchmark on how much es per piece of armour is decent enough for 74-77 maps. Say ~600 es chest etc. Would greatly appreciate the help thanks!

thanks again ghazzy.

After mapping for a few hours I felt pretty squishy with the hybrid build, also I disliked that my zombies always died so fast. I respecced to the 3 keystone summoner, feels a lot safer now! the 8 zombies never die thanks to life reg, life leech and 100% more life!

I tested flame sentinels and revenants, ended up playing with revenants.


Which gems should i first throw gcps on them ? srs obviously first, then?
I might be able to squeeze and self cast a curse, what would be most optimal? elemental weakness?

For the hybrid build, I was just wondering if it is possible to give sort a benchmark on how much es per piece of armour is decent enough for 74-77 maps. Say ~600 es chest etc. Would greatly appreciate the help thanks!

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danteafk wrote:

thanks again ghazzy.

After mapping for a few hours I felt pretty squishy with the hybrid build, also I disliked that my zombies always died so fast. I respecced to the 3 keystone summoner, feels a lot safer now! the 8 zombies never die thanks to life reg, life leech and 100% more life!

I tested flame sentinels and revenants, ended up playing with revenants.


Which gems should i first throw gcps on them ? srs obviously first, then?
I might be able to squeeze and self cast a curse, what would be most optimal? elemental weakness?

Elemental Weakness then Vulnerability yes.

Revenants are not scaling from the auras as Flame Sentinels are they should be better together with SRS involved. Also, if you plan on applying EE with your curse on hit which should increase DMG significantly the revenant will in this situation do even less damage as you'll be applying EE with lightning damage of course.


Hope the info helped, but as always remember; Play the build in a way that suits you the best, that way you'll have more fun playing it!

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Icemilo wrote:

For the hybrid build, I was just wondering if it is possible to give sort a benchmark on how much es per piece of armour is decent enough for 74-77 maps. Say ~600 es chest etc. Would greatly appreciate the help thanks!

The Pure Hybrid SRS build benchmark gear:
Chest: ~600+ preferably with intelligence
Boots: ~100+ preferably with intelligence
Gloves: ~80+ preferably with intelligence and minion damage benched
Ring: Resistance, Attributes (str,dex mainly), preferably with ES benched %
Amulet: preferably an extremely high ammount of Dex (60+), also with res if possible and %ES increase
Helmet: +2 min ~200+ ES preferably with intelligence

Almost all pieces are better with extra intelligence, but remember; you have to get chaos res on top of the other resistances so priorities that fact over intelligence of course, with that rough ammount of ES you should be perfectly fine surviving even Atziri.

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Ghazzy wrote:

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danteafk wrote:

thanks again ghazzy.

After mapping for a few hours I felt pretty squishy with the hybrid build, also I disliked that my zombies always died so fast. I respecced to the 3 keystone summoner, feels a lot safer now! the 8 zombies never die thanks to life reg, life leech and 100% more life!

I tested flame sentinels and revenants, ended up playing with revenants.


Which gems should i first throw gcps on them ? srs obviously first, then?
I might be able to squeeze and self cast a curse, what would be most optimal? elemental weakness?

Elemental Weakness then Vulnerability yes.

Revenants are not scaling from the auras as Flame Sentinels are they should be better together with SRS involved. Also, if you plan on applying EE with your curse on hit which should increase DMG significantly the revenant will in this situation do even less damage as you'll be applying EE with lightning damage of course.


Hope the info helped, but as always remember; Play the build in a way that suits you the best, that way you'll have more fun playing it!

I actually switched to wrath because of the revenants, but I think you are right, anger will not only benefit the sentinels but also the srs minions.

though my observation has been that the revenants can easily kill mobs on their own, while the sentinels took for the same thing a lot longer. I see the balls flying but do considerably less damage.

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danteafk wrote:

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Ghazzy wrote:

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danteafk wrote:

thanks again ghazzy.

After mapping for a few hours I felt pretty squishy with the hybrid build, also I disliked that my zombies always died so fast. I respecced to the 3 keystone summoner, feels a lot safer now! the 8 zombies never die thanks to life reg, life leech and 100% more life!

I tested flame sentinels and revenants, ended up playing with revenants.


Which gems should i first throw gcps on them ? srs obviously first, then?
I might be able to squeeze and self cast a curse, what would be most optimal? elemental weakness?

Elemental Weakness then Vulnerability yes.

Revenants are not scaling from the auras as Flame Sentinels are they should be better together with SRS involved. Also, if you plan on applying EE with your curse on hit which should increase DMG significantly the revenant will in this situation do even less damage as you'll be applying EE with lightning damage of course.


Hope the info helped, but as always remember; Play the build in a way that suits you the best, that way you'll have more fun playing it!

I actually switched to wrath because of the revenants, but I think you are right, anger will not only benefit the sentinels but also the srs minions.

though my observation has been that the revenants can easily kill mobs on their own, while the sentinels took for the same thing a lot longer. I see the balls flying but do considerably less damage.

I'm glad you found a way to play this build that is not what I am displaying!
Without this type of feedback i can never release new and improved build or buildversions!

Keep up the great work :)

Can you please explain why many other guides advice to pick a +2/3 fire gems Staff?
Why not to link Spectres with something good? In 4 link they can give a lot dps.
Why not to use Curses? For example vulnerability

Can you list some gear recommendations for the non-HC build? Like what rolls to get on which gear? Also what is considered "low budget" in this context? Is it <1ex, <10ex, etc? I mean for the hardcore player something like 10ex is still considered "low budget" but for the casual player 10ex is something they can't ever afford in this game. So far I know you recommend a 6L Pledge which is not "low budget" at all (14ex min) lol. What would be a good 5L substitute staff? I have no intention of trying Atziri, I'm happy just stopping at level 73-74ish maps then rerolling a new toon.

Also I was wondering what are the main differences between choosing a witch vs a scion? I have too many witches but not a single scion, does scion have any significant disadvantages? I know 99% of summoners I see are witches.

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kebal wrote:

Can you please explain why many other guides advice to pick a +2/3 fire gems Staff?
Why not to link Spectres with something good? In 4 link they can give a lot dps.
Why not to use Curses? For example vulnerability

Hey,

Many others are players have not played/streamed summoners exclusively for 1.5 years. The main problem is that many people seem to have been testing the differences by just changing the weapon and then realising that "Hey, +3 does more damage" which it does. BUT if you remove the extra mana/mana regen and/or mana cost reduction nodes you have extra when equiping a Pledge and implement those towards the use of more minion jewels you will absolutely do more damage. On top of this, Multistrike is a very very good gem to use problem is being able to even come remotely close of sustaining it, Pledge of Hands actually provides you with the possibility of handling that as well, which again increases the damage done with the Pledge.

Also, +3 is only better if you are going to play with EB/ZO.

What do you mean by not linking the spectres with something good? If you're refering to the pure SRS Hybrid the use of both spectres and zombies are not mandatory but it does help you. If you wish to play the build slightly different than im displaying, by all means do it, then that would be better suited for you. I promote that fact 24/7 on my threads as well as on stream.

Curses Have their pros and cons, Spell Totem can not have Curse on Hit forcing you to manually cast curses, which you do not want to do when you're spamming SRS, for a classic summoner build sure but for SRS no, you actually lose DPS by casting the curse.

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melodia1 wrote:

Can you list some gear recommendations for the non-HC build? Like what rolls to get on which gear? Also what is considered "low budget" in this context? Is it <1ex, <10ex, etc? I mean for the hardcore player something like 10ex is still considered "low budget" but for the casual player 10ex is something they can't ever afford in this game. So far I know you recommend a 6L Pledge which is not "low budget" at all (14ex min) lol. What would be a good 5L substitute staff? I have no intention of trying Atziri, I'm happy just stopping at level 73-74ish maps then rerolling a new toon.

Also I was wondering what are the main differences between choosing a witch vs a scion? I have too many witches but not a single scion, does scion have any significant disadvantages? I know 99% of summoners I see are witches.

Low budget is roughly 1ex as this guidecompendium is made for newer players specifically!
The gear suggestions would depend which build you are refering to?

If you can not afford a Pledge of Hands then you can always go for a +2 Fire staff with cast speed, these staves are usually EXTREMELY cheap! And you can do Atziri with it being 5L thats how strong SRS builds are.

The Pure SRS Hybrid does best as a Witch whilst the X-Keystone Summoner builds does best as a Scion. The differences are well, first the reward gems is slightly different. Scion doesn't get all the gems, the witch gets almost all gems from vendor/rewards. However, the biggest difference is that if you play the "incorrect" class so to say you lose a few skillpoints in the start of the tree that is literally wasted.