[2.1 Ghazzy - Summoner Guides] Low Budget Builds

Just 6-linked Pledge of Hands but now I cannot afford a leveled Empower. I'm currently using SRS- Minion Damage- Melee Phys- Melee Phys on Full Life- Culling Strike- and Melee Splash. I can't really maintain Multistrike even with Pledge and most of the mana/mana regen nodes. Any other suggestions for 6-link PoH until I can get a leveled Empower?
i ended up going for the srs hybrid build on tempest rather than the keystone summoner because of this:

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You will be relying on spectres to do most of your DMG and chose to either have 2 curses or the addition of raging spirits to increase your damage output and clear speed.


that quote rather scared me :P hopefully I`ll not regret it.

rather prefer the flow/casting of srs rather than having my minions to do all the work. currently level 40 and kind of squishy, cast speed of srs is still slow but the build should shine later.

even bought a PoH and 5l'd it.
Last edited by danteafk#2688 on Aug 17, 2015, 6:10:33 PM
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Ghazzy wrote:
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Thauma wrote:
Hallo Ghazzy! Me again :D

What are your thoughts on using Fortify for zombies/skeletons?

In an effort to give myself more free sockets, I'm planning to link Zombies AND Skeletons together so I can give them both the same support gems. In a 5L this would be:
-Summon Skeletons
-Raise Zombie
-Spell Totem
-Multistrike
-???

I was thinking Fortify would offer the best combination of damage reduction and offence, but it seems a bit too good to be true.



Hey hey,

I am not a big fan of using Fortify for the main source of damage minions. However, if you are using them as meatshields, by all means gogogo.

Skeletons... nope noooope, nooooooooooope, NOOOOOOOOOOOOPE! Linking Fortify with Skeletons is a complete waste unless you are making some sort of niche build making them JUST survive Atziri flameblasts to work as suicide bombers which still wouldnt be very reliable nor effective.

Keep in mind that minions does less damage being summoned via a Spell Totem, hence why i only use skeletons in a spell totem to literally act as meat for the grinder (aka Decoy Targets that dies in 1-2 hits)!


Ah, so Spell Totem does make the minions weaker? In that case, I won't want to do that with my zombies!

Fortify however sounds pretty good for Zombie tanks. Thanks for the tip :)


I want to include additional defensive auras to my build because I'm so damned squishy, but I have no space. My idea was to combine Skellies with Zombies to save space, but I see that won't be ideal.

Here's my current setup:

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Ideally I want to squeeze in Discipline (with Blood Magic), as it'll make my minions tankier whilst hopefully giving me better survivability.

I suppose I could get rid of the support gems on the Skeletotem... I guess I just really like having aggressive skeletons because their AI is so much more reliable :D

Hoping to 5L my Vis Mortis so I can add additional supports to either my Zombies or my curses.
Last edited by Thauma#0709 on Aug 17, 2015, 9:34:05 PM
Hey ghazzy,

I have just purchased a lvl 3 empower and looking for a new staff. I was just wondering which was better, a 6L +2 staff or 5L +3 staff? If I use the 5L +3 staff, what gems would you recommend?

Thanks in advance.
Hey Ghazzy, your profile is private, it would be nice to see what gear you are using and to be able to see links in a nice format. Is it possible that you can post a 'current gear' in either your high budget/low budget thread?
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theslap wrote:
Just 6-linked Pledge of Hands but now I cannot afford a leveled Empower. I'm currently using SRS- Minion Damage- Melee Phys- Melee Phys on Full Life- Culling Strike- and Melee Splash. I can't really maintain Multistrike even with Pledge and most of the mana/mana regen nodes. Any other suggestions for 6-link PoH until I can get a leveled Empower?


Added Fire!


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danteafk wrote:
i ended up going for the srs hybrid build on tempest rather than the keystone summoner because of this:

"
You will be relying on spectres to do most of your DMG and chose to either have 2 curses or the addition of raging spirits to increase your damage output and clear speed.


that quote rather scared me :P hopefully I`ll not regret it.

rather prefer the flow/casting of srs rather than having my minions to do all the work. currently level 40 and kind of squishy, cast speed of srs is still slow but the build should shine later.

even bought a PoH and 5l'd it.


3 Keystone Zoomancer build does 50% srs 50% spectre dmg :)

All 3 builds are good, SRS Hybrid is more reliable for atziri fight.
The build snowballs around lvl 50-55! Nice job with the Pledge!

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Thauma wrote:
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Ghazzy wrote:
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Thauma wrote:
Hallo Ghazzy! Me again :D

What are your thoughts on using Fortify for zombies/skeletons?

In an effort to give myself more free sockets, I'm planning to link Zombies AND Skeletons together so I can give them both the same support gems. In a 5L this would be:
-Summon Skeletons
-Raise Zombie
-Spell Totem
-Multistrike
-???

I was thinking Fortify would offer the best combination of damage reduction and offence, but it seems a bit too good to be true.



Hey hey,

I am not a big fan of using Fortify for the main source of damage minions. However, if you are using them as meatshields, by all means gogogo.

Skeletons... nope noooope, nooooooooooope, NOOOOOOOOOOOOPE! Linking Fortify with Skeletons is a complete waste unless you are making some sort of niche build making them JUST survive Atziri flameblasts to work as suicide bombers which still wouldnt be very reliable nor effective.

Keep in mind that minions does less damage being summoned via a Spell Totem, hence why i only use skeletons in a spell totem to literally act as meat for the grinder (aka Decoy Targets that dies in 1-2 hits)!


Ah, so Spell Totem does make the minions weaker? In that case, I won't want to do that with my zombies!

Fortify however sounds pretty good for Zombie tanks. Thanks for the tip :)


I want to include additional defensive auras to my build because I'm so damned squishy, but I have no space. My idea was to combine Skellies with Zombies to save space, but I see that won't be ideal.

Here's my current setup:

Spoiler


Ideally I want to squeeze in Discipline (with Blood Magic), as it'll make my minions tankier whilst hopefully giving me better survivability.

I suppose I could get rid of the support gems on the Skeletotem... I guess I just really like having aggressive skeletons because their AI is so much more reliable :D

Hoping to 5L my Vis Mortis so I can add additional supports to either my Zombies or my curses.


Sounds much more reasonable imo! :)


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Icemilo wrote:
Hey ghazzy,

I have just purchased a lvl 3 empower and looking for a new staff. I was just wondering which was better, a 6L +2 staff or 5L +3 staff? If I use the 5L +3 staff, what gems would you recommend?

Thanks in advance.


Links will always be better than +1 lvl of the gems. So the 6L +2 is better than a 5L +3. However, you should be aiming for a Pledge of Hands. Gems are listed in the guide, just remove culling strike for 5L.


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Saga1234 wrote:
Hey Ghazzy, your profile is private, it would be nice to see what gear you are using and to be able to see links in a nice format. Is it possible that you can post a 'current gear' in either your high budget/low budget thread?


Believe my gear is posted on page 17 in the high budget thread. I am currently reworking some of the pieces and/or selling some of them as i am in the process of creating another build for the High Budget thread, this time an Uber farming Classic summoner build but i lack currency and need to craft more jewels... running low on alterations as always, spent over 32,000.
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Hey Ghazzy!

Which Links are better for a 5L +2 fire? Thanks! :)
SRS> Spell Echo>Minion Damage> Melee Physical Dmg > Added Fire dmg
SRS> Spell Echo>Minion Damage> Melee Physical Dmg > Culling Strike
SRS> Spell Echo>Minion Damage> Melee Physical Dmg > Added Chaos dmg
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Erych wrote:
Hey Ghazzy!

Which Links are better for a 5L +2 fire? Thanks! :)
SRS> Spell Echo>Minion Damage> Melee Physical Dmg > Added Fire dmg
SRS> Spell Echo>Minion Damage> Melee Physical Dmg > Culling Strike
SRS> Spell Echo>Minion Damage> Melee Physical Dmg > Added Chaos dmg


SRS> Spell Echo>Minion Damage> Melee Physical Dmg > Culling Strike

However, I would recommend switching Culling for Melee Splash and then vs single target boss fights take in Melee DMG on Full Life instead.
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appreciate the effort you put into your thread ghazzy answering all questions every day.

the point with 40%+ chaos res on the srs hybrid build, is this only because of the the atziri map and the mobs there that do chaos dmg?

also, since i`m going with the hybrid build, 5l PoH, +2 minions helmet, what should I do with a 5l body? do you think it is worth to go like gmp flame sentinels or the stygian revenants even though we did not pick so many +health/dmg minion nodes as we do with the keystoner summoner builds?


current setup with 70, any optimization suggestions?
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for the endgame, is it possible to run anger+haste+hatred with all %reduced mana nodes?
Last edited by danteafk#2688 on Aug 19, 2015, 7:51:47 AM
Thanks Ghaz; I think I'll begin experimenting when I get my 5L chest. Weaker skellies in exchange for more powerful zombies + more auras ^_^

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