Shockingly strong flamethrower build (Incinerate + Three Dragons)

hello, I want to try this build, could you tell me Which is the last tree?

ps: sorry for my english
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DutchRudder wrote:
hey what do you think of this build? my current at level 91
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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMAAuMEswVbB2MHpQj0EZYUTRVQFy8ZhRmKGjIabBqPHNwdFB2qHpQfAiQ8JKonqSjFLJwtHy2DL28xiDbFNulEq0ZxRtdJG0lRSbJMNU99UWBVrlXGVdZWLVcrWm1dxmBtZOdnvW0Zb55wfXC7c1N5A3_GgFaApIIQgh6DCYM4h2WLjI9Gj6aTJ5cGm6GbtZwtnYCiAKKjpwinXKmVrD-sf6-3tAy1BMBUwfPDOsSiykrPZdDQ2CTZE9rd2wvcV93z37Dhc-GI42rkIulz7SDub_Af877z3fba-tL7CQ==


I went for auras and more mana instead of the shadow area, i can now run discipline, clarity, haste and a life leech tempest shield and have 1500 mana unreserved for MoM


just got this bad boy and the 20% proj speed node + proj speed gem is awesome for clearing maps quickly and safely

a boosted haste makes up for the dps lost in the shadow area and now my mana is much better

sitting at 10.10 casts per second without 20% faster projectiles and still 16% aura effect to grab and level 18 haste

still mucking around with my ideal defensive setup, im going to level my CWDT + IC + EC + Inc duration a little higher and work on getting better rings because my light resist isnt capped and chaos is -27% now

50% block, 72% spell block, 3.5k life, level 20 AA

what do you think?

Also for more survivability i can use alphas howl with a purity of elements to make up for the lost three dragons resists or a high armour life resists helmet for hard melee bosses which you wont shock stack anyway

I have been able to shock stack the dry peninsula boss quite easily even on an enfeeble map but not been able to shock stack map vaal oversoul yet


First of all, sorry for my late response. Have been busy of late.

Looking at your passive tree, I dont have too big comments. Personally I dislike going for ballistic mastery, as I see it as a waste of points. Too many 'useless' points to get to it.
You also take a lot of aura nodes, but if that enables you to run a 4th aura, I guess its fine.

I havent tested your defensive setup (would take a lot of time to do, as i would have to change and level the gems, swap my skill tree and get a 6L COD). So i would just advise trying different things and see what works best ;)

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Claustrox wrote:
Thank you very much for this thread !
I am quite confused with this build ?cos I fused something form this one with this http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/811707/page/1

My equip right now
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My passive tree


Some questions:
1) I am constantly running 4 auras ( haste, clarity , discipline,and purity of elements or vitality + Arctic Armor ( mana after reserved only 200) but I have a lot of mana regen nd never have casting problem .. is it ok? My mana regen about 230 with auras
2)I have life leech linked with incinerate and Cybil's Paw at level 83 I can sustain Dominus in all phases without dying but I have to stay steady at level 3 incinerate for it and I need some flasks help .Do you think I can ridof life leech gem?
3) I have only 2000 dps on tooltip and I can understand how can I improve DPS without mining survivability ( nly 3200 hp without ES )
4) Cybil 's paw mechanics? Does it restore 20 hp for every hit done by incinerate with every mob?
5) can you seggest me how to arrange the 6 link on chest?

Thank you very much:-)
Andrea


Hey andrea, thanks for using my build :) I really hope you're enjoying it!

1) your required mana regen is dependent on a lot of things. First of all it depends on your skill links (running GMP vs LMP, running added chaos versus added lightning etc etc). Some support gems have a lot higher mana multiplier than others.
The second big point is the fact if you are using the cloak of defiance (eg. if you have MoM). If you have MoM then the more mana regen you have, the better it is (I think i currently have around 330 if i'm correct).
2) Lifeleech is very useful link. However to run maps fast, I prefer to use different skill links that improve the map-clear speed (which life leech doesnt do). However lifeleech is very useful in fights like dominus in palace or the courtyard boss etc. You could consider taking 2 5L moms with different color sockets, which you can swap. Otherwise I would say: test with/without life leech map clears, and see what you prefer :)
3) your skill tree is A LOT more defensive than mine. My build is completely focussed on very very fast map clears with high DPS. Your build is a lot more defensive, you won't risk dying as often, but your map clears will be about 2x slower than mine.
4) I am not 100% sure on this, but I would say that every hit on every mob (eg lmp + 10 casts per second = 30 hits per mob per second) gives you the life.
5) 6L chest has loads of options. You have to start by what is required:
- Incinerate always takes your first slot
- LMP will always take your second slot (can also be GMP, however I like LMP a lot more)
- Added lightning (has to have 20% Q), this gem can also be swapped with Added chaos (which has a higher mana multiplier), also the extra shock chance in shadow is then advised.

Now you start getting more options:
- I really like firepen, however this doenst increase your tooltip DPS, it greatly increases your damage (as this is a red socket, when needed you can swap it out for a lifeleech, very useful!)
- Faster casting is really nice, with quality it can reach +50% cast speed!
- Faster projectiles also gives cast speed when it has quality
- If your 6L costs too much mana, consider using 'reduced mana' or 'mana leech'. Mana leech with MoM also increases your surviviblity

I think that's about it :)

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Botshot wrote:
Hey im liking the build, but have a question do you max lvl all the Gems, currently hving problem with Dex.


There are always 2 ways to get stats: passive tree or gear
First one is taking the 2x 30 dex nodes that you pass by in the passive tree.
Second thing is gear. As you use unique weapon, chest, helm, neck and shield, these items wont give you dex. Dex has to come from rings, boots and gloves. In my build i also mention the stats required on these items (for instance: rings with Life, resistance, dex and 50%+ mana regen). These items are very very hard to find, but spending enough time on poe.xyz you will find what you need in the end! Personally I get the required strength on my belt


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mogg_fanatico wrote:
hello, I want to try this build, could you tell me Which is the last tree?

ps: sorry for my english


I think you mean what the passive tree looks likes at high level. For me my build looks like this:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMAAuMEswVbB2MHpQj0FE0V5xbzGYUaMho4Gmwc3B0UHpQfAiQ8JKomPCaVJ6koxSlPKo0snC0fLUcvnTGINsU22DbpRKtG10kbSVFJskw1UEJRYFVLVa5VxlcrWm1dxmBtZ71tGW17cH1zU3OzeLp5A35Zf8aCEIIegpuDOIdli4yMNo9Gj6aQVZMnl4WboZwtnYCfe6IAoqOksacIp1ynhKmVrD-vt7UEwFTB889l0NDVT9gk2t3bC9xX3fPed9-w4XPjauQi5Y7sOOxV7SDub_Af8GvzvvPd-tI=

However, looking through everyones builds here, and all the cool suggestions/alterations you will see that there are a lot of interesting variations :)
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Build of the week (S2E5): 3-dragons incinerate
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/856154
Last edited by iznobest#6280 on Jun 30, 2014, 3:52:45 AM
For the people that have kept up to date with the new patch.

How do you guys think 'echo' will work with my build? Currently I have 10 casts/second, will echo then up it to 20 casts/second?
Because if that is the case, it sounds freaking brutal ^^
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Build of the week (S2E5): 3-dragons incinerate
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/856154
I think that is how it will work. :) And we don't have long to wait to find out!
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Hey there, it's been a long while iznobest :). Just tried spell echo on my ripped witch.

It's a much better upgrade than Faster Casting in terms of DPS and mana cost for Incinerate. Doubt it makes 10 casts/s to 20 casts/s since there's spell casting animation too. The More cast speed is much, much more valuable.
Thanks for info! I'm looking forward to getting one too!
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the ring Thief's Torment is a good choice for this build?
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DtAndroid wrote:
Hey there, it's been a long while iznobest :). Just tried spell echo on my ripped witch.

It's a much better upgrade than Faster Casting in terms of DPS and mana cost for Incinerate. Doubt it makes 10 casts/s to 20 casts/s since there's spell casting animation too. The More cast speed is much, much more valuable.


thanks alot for testing it and letting everyone know how it works. I was already expecting this gem to replace 'faster casting'.

Can the tooltip still show accurately the amount of casts/second you have with echo?

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mogg_fanatico wrote:
the ring Thief's Torment is a good choice for this build?


I'm afraid not. The ring says:
+(20 to 30) Life gained for each enemy hit by your Attacks
+15 Mana gained for each enemy hit by your Attacks

The incinerate is considered a 'spell' and not an 'attack' and therefor this will not work
else it would have been very sick indeed :P
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Build of the week (S2E5): 3-dragons incinerate
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/856154
Last edited by iznobest#6280 on Jul 4, 2014, 3:25:50 AM
Well, Izno, we gotta have one!

Edited to add: on another note, that is the horror movie that we call the apex of sacrifice, imo this character is not viable until lvl 90 or so, which is respectable. Mine is 83 and was simply not doing enough dmg. However, that is because I invested far more life in the tree than you did w/over 4k and not fast enough regen. I have no desire to revisit however, the tragedy is echo might change things since we get some faster casting from gear.
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Last edited by kolyaboo#7295 on Jul 4, 2014, 3:01:47 PM
HOLY SHIT ECHO IS INSANE!!!



my current incinerate/fireball/freezing pulse/ball lightning setup

i replaced fire pen with added light so i can still shock, even though the damage per hit is lower it can still shock rare mobs in 75 maps, just tested this, only 10% chance to shok but im at 17 casts per second! with only a level 13 non quality spell echo O.o so it stacks very quick

having fire dmg chaos dmg and light dmg works well even for resistant enemies, the dps is just insane now and it reaches stage 3 super quickly

it is a must have, either replace faster casting with it or use both, with just echo my cast speed is around 13 casts per sec so i could use added cold instead of faster casting but i want to reach stage 3 as fast a s possible

maybe when its level 20/20 ill use added cold instead of faster casting which will then let me switch it out for faster proj/mana leech for different situations

my dps more then doubled and i dont even have all damage gems level 20 holy shit lol

level 74 underground river boss died in 2 seconds not cursed, havent even tested with ele weakness yet because i use enfeeble, absolutely love it

:D

p.s gmp fire ball with this setup replacing added light with conc effect is alos insane and shotguns so well!

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