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i dont quite understand "read-only stash" at its fullest, basically i wont be able to take any item out of the "read-only" stash? am i going to have to carry all my items in mule chars to SC?
i'd like a dev further clarify this to me since its my only concern atm, thanks in advance.
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Posted byangelmaton001#2698on Sep 23, 2013, 8:45:42 PM
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so many jealous people , legacy items add to the depth of the game and doesn't affect anyone except the people who actually have them .
if you don't have a legacy item then it won't affect you at all , so don't worry about it.
as long as you are living in community, as long as you trade something with others or asking for help pass boss, they do.
So why should an old char be easier to farm top lv Map with IIQ/IIR stack because he has some op items while I am hitting the wall or forced to buy their founds?
the same reason right now an old character right now should have an easier time farming high map lvls. because they put the time and experience into getting to that tier of optimization.
also these types of arguments are based on the assumption that new uniques coming out will not be overpowered and you can never be as optimized to run maps as efficiently. which is unknown and false. you could have new uniques be just as broken as the older ones.
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Posted byHeaT1#1508on Sep 23, 2013, 8:45:56 PM
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I hate to say it, but I anticipate another set of exhaustive challenges primarily focused on power players. It would be nice to see a set of challenges for which completion is actually attainable by casual/non-hardcore players with some type of in-game rewards of some sort. For example, as someone who primarily plays Anarchy, I have had no real incentive to complete the current challenges.
I would also love to see some form of permanent or semi-permanent mid-core league that would be exempt from the influx of items and currency from other leagues. It seems to me that the Softcore and Hardcore leagues have seen a sizable amount of inflation and item/currency devaluation as a result of the influx of items/currency from their respective "feeder" leagues.
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Posted byMrAuntJemima#4079on Sep 23, 2013, 8:49:37 PM
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It was fun GGG, but I cannot support a developer who thinks legacy items are a good idea for an ARPG. If those item changes aren't reverted I'll really regret from having supported this company =(.
Hell, now that Blizzard is removing the RMAH in D3 and improving the game in the expansion I even risk saying it will become better than PoE because there are no bull**** legacy items on that game.
Shit, I'm still shocked after reading this post. How can you guys think that removing the ability of finding (not trading) that cool item you always wanted is a good idea? As a self found player this will completely kill my desire from playing this game.
Also, didn't you guys think it would be better to warn players earlier about those items changes? I stopped playing PoE for a couple of months because I was playing something else, but I was definitely returning to this game after the "release" and thinking I would be able to farm the Anarchy/Onslaught specific items with more calm, but that wasn't the case. If I knew about these changes earlier I keep playing the game in order to find the pre-nerf items before the changes.
Oh well, time to find another game to play.
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Posted bySynchrotron#2279on Sep 23, 2013, 9:06:26 PM
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Not nerfing the old uniques, but nerfing the new drops and making legacy uniques non-tradeable is the best option and I can't really understand what's the big deal about it.
You know what's going to happen?
All the legacy items will go to the standard/hc league. And there isn't really a problem with that, as long as they aren't tradeable. People will keep on grinding to get the BiS possible for their build or keep making builds around the uniques that are possible for them to have. I never made my builds around Kaom's or Shavronne's, nor I ever minded that people who farmed like hell got them. And what do you know, I still think this game is awesome and I still love to play it. Those items are godly, yeah, but they aren't what makes this game fun. Is it possible to play CI without Shavronne's, health without Kaom's and bow without Lionseye's? Yes to all of them. Of course, people with the "legacy" version will do it better than you, but what's wrong with that as long as you can do it too? Just see it as a reward for working hard during beta, a time that people weren't sure they would keep their items, but farmed for them nonetheless.
You know what's going to change if these legacy items still exist when the game launches? Nothing. People will keep farming, making builds, dying, starting over (in some leagues), but a very selective few will be able to do it better than you. What's the big deal about it? Are you so arrogant as to think that someone can't, or shouldn't, do things better than you, period? I'm really sorry, but if it's competitive play you want, the standard league, and the hardcore league to some degree, are the last places you should be.
All in all, I'm excited about the launch and really happy about the changes in game so far.
Plus we, the users, have greater worries than legacy items. The life vs ES debate and desync being the most important right now imho.
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Posted byePuff#7346on Sep 23, 2013, 9:21:32 PM
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Dragwlya wrote:
Not nerfing the old uniques, but nerfing the new drops and making legacy uniques non-tradeable is the best option and I can't really understand what's the big deal about it.
You know what's going to happen?
All the legacy items will go to the standard/hc league. And there isn't really a problem with that, as long as they aren't tradeable. People will keep on grinding to get the BiS possible for their build or keep making builds around the uniques that are possible for them to have. I never made my builds around Kaom's or Shavronne's, nor I ever minded that people who farmed like hell got them. And what do you know, I still think this game is awesome and I still love to play it. Those items are godly, yeah, but they aren't what makes this game fun. Is it possible to play CI without Shavronne's, health without Kaom's and bow without Lionseye's? Yes to all of them. Of course, people with the "legacy" version will do it better than you, but what's wrong with that as long as you can do it too? Just see it as a reward for working hard during beta, a time that people weren't sure they would keep their items, but farmed for them nonetheless.
You know what's going to change if these legacy items still exist when the game launches? Nothing. People will keep farming, making builds, dying, starting over (in some leagues), but a very selective few will be able to do it better than you. What's the big deal about it? Are you so arrogant as to think that someone can't, or shouldn't, do things better than you, period? I'm really sorry, but if it's competitive play you want, the standard league, and the hardcore league to some degree, are the last places you should be.
All in all, I'm excited about the launch and really happy about the changes in game so far.
Plus we, the users, have greater worries than legacy items. The life vs ES debate and desync being the most important right now imho.
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Posted byInksm3ar#5479on Sep 23, 2013, 9:29:17 PM
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I disagree Dragwlya. Legacy uniques, especially filling build-enabling roles, only serves to strengthen RMT and pay-to-win as their locked supply leads to ludicrous levels of inflation.
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Posted bylordbadguy#5900on Sep 23, 2013, 9:50:27 PM
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mobutu wrote:
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Josephoenix wrote:
enough Mobutu... If you have nothing constructive to say, don't say anything at all and leave the thread.
you leave ... or you dead trying to live
is this a threat? id take it as one and the mods should look at your recent post history in this thread and take appropriate action.
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Posted byscorpitron#3820on Sep 23, 2013, 9:57:21 PM
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Oh, I feel like making a character today. Unfortunately it will be impossible to aquire the best gear since it is no longer avalaible... Worst decision ever made by GGG so far. I can barely believe it
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Posted byKaratecowboy#7666on Sep 23, 2013, 10:06:43 PM
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Oh, I feel like making a character today. Unfortunately it will be impossible to aquire the best gear since it is no longer avalaible... Worst decision ever made by GGG so far. I can barely believe it
Sigh...
play a different league.
Why is this so hard for people to understand?
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Posted byMiszou#0290on Sep 23, 2013, 10:26:43 PM
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