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Make up your mind... first you say the tree was balanced around Kaoms, then you say that people with Kaoms didn't even notice...
As long as the life nodes are percentage boosts, your assertion makes no sense at all since Kaoms will always be a huge relative increase.
I don't think you thought your cunning argument all the way through...
There is nothing wrong with my argument. The life nodes were rebalanced with Koams in mind and the people with Koams barely noticed and were still overpowered after the balance pass. Also, the people without Koams were the hardest hit and as a result were pushed to go CI. This is all true. What's also true is that with the life nodes being percentage based, Koams will always be overpowered, or as you put it, a huge relative increase, which makes my point: the item is broken, not the passive tree, which is why GGG's attempt at balancing the item via the passive tree failed and that GGG needs to address the broken items by rebalancing the items themselves.
The interaction of Engery Shield nodes with rares that have high rolls of both +ES and %ES have the same problem as the Life node interaction with Koams. The Energy Shield nodes took a hit because of this, and again, the problem wasn't the passive nodes, it's the items. The life and energy shield nodes are perfectly fine for everything other than these overpowered items.
Kaoms imbalances Life. You have to keep that in mind balancing the tree and everything else. Thats why it has to be nerfed or has to go.
My take would be a simple change of the rule (like they did with Iron Reflexes):
Just make primary and secondary life. Make nodes that give like 40 primary life, keep nodes with % life (and buff them) and make kaoms give secondary life: The 1000 from kaoms is calculated AFTER everything else. Its always just 1000. That keeps the item basically as is, and you can rebalance the tree for all other items with primary HP up to 100 and something.
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Posted byt_golgari#2414on Sep 23, 2013, 4:25:48 PM
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I have just 2 short cents on this topic...
Before you think on fixing items pls fix the economy of the game and the map system.
Both is seriously broken.
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Posted byConan_xxx#1131on Sep 23, 2013, 4:26:55 PM
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I go with "either nerf all op uniques or leave them alone."
having 2 versions of the same uniques is retarded.
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Posted by07Ghost#2572on Sep 23, 2013, 4:27:58 PM
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double post
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Posted by07Ghost#2572on Sep 23, 2013, 4:27:58 PM
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^ Double-post irony ftw.
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Posted byMiszou#0290on Sep 23, 2013, 4:33:43 PM
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I go with "either nerf all op uniques or leave them alone."
having 2 versions of the same uniques is retarded.
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Posted bykeifkeif#4115on Sep 23, 2013, 4:34:56 PM
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if not having legacy items means that at the begining you are already waaaaaay behind people that have them - people wont be very thrilled to play new leagues. why gimp yourself?
Were you dropped on your head as a child?
The legacy items won't be in the new leagues. All that junk will float down to standard league. If you don't want to be part of it, play one of the other leagues - just as GGG intended.
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yes, you can play new leagues - but these are (probably) boring as fuck.
"Probably"? Maybe you don't have a clue yet, since they haven't even been announced.
blaaabla bla bla
previous leagues were boring as fuck - one had unbalanced rogues that could be unkillable at certain places/with certain builds, the other one made desync even more fun and alt-f4 even more a required skill
ggg doesnt have the balls to introduce self-found league, they dont have the balls to introduce perma-descent, they dont have the balls to create something different that "one semi-standard + one-semi hardcore". where only reason to play were: new economy and few nice new items (i think that league-only amulets were amazingly well designed). ladder? who gives a fuck if he is 18504 or 19403? to place around the top you have to have even less life than kripp (and/or do account sharing)
looking at all race mods used so far it seems that creativity in this area is lacking. and it would be something surprising if they had created completely new, untested leagues for 4 months. more importantly - months where d3ex will be launched (probably) - so a big gamble
U mad? yeah u mad.
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Posted bykeifkeif#4115on Sep 23, 2013, 4:36:16 PM
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I go with "having 2 versions of the same uniques is retarded."
either nerf all op uniques or leave them alone.
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Posted byScrotieMcB#2697on Sep 23, 2013, 4:39:21 PM
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I go with "having 2 versions of the same uniques is retarded."
either nerf all op uniques or leave them alone.
all item that where nerf before where not remove only new one that drop where nerf this is the best way.. that way there will be less for sale and make it more affordable for other player to get the new one and if you want the best one will you can pay for it...
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Posted byePuff#7346on Sep 23, 2013, 5:01:14 PM
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Lol if theres something that needs to be nerfed its the fricken 1k es 3 resists 6 sockets ES chests, not kaoms with 0 sockets no resists.
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Posted byiFiNiTi#2792on Sep 23, 2013, 5:06:11 PM
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