What's happening when Anarchy/Onslaught leagues end?

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

legacy items are fine, they are not going to balance the game around legacy items and it doesnt effect you if someone has a legacy toy. I had a kaoms and a lioneyes, sold them, dont give a shit if some guy out there has an old kaoms and is enjoying himself. Some of you need to stop being so bitter, the game as far as it concerns you will not be impacted by some other dude having a legacy unique, get over it.

this dude doesnt even see the problem so what can you say to him? nothin'

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Lorginir wrote:

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Rogue Exiles will start to spawn in all leagues

Don't you want to ask people opinions first?

Why? Do you not want exiles or something?

I think most opinions are going to be: Hell yeah!

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pneuma wrote:

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Chris wrote:

The Onyx Amulet will have its implicit mod reduced to 10-16 to all attributes. Any Onyx Amulets found or rolled with Blessed Orbs before this change goes into effect will keep their higher values.

More legacy items? That sucks. Not the end of the world since it's only a loss of +4 to all attributes, and only affects the legacy leagues.

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Chris wrote:

All of the item base types introduced in Anarchy and Onslaught will now spawn in all leagues. They or other base types may later be disabled.
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Anarchy and Onslaught-only Unique items will not drop any more. Some or all of them may return in the future.

This is just bad. None of this content is worthy of removal, and most are actually exceedingly well balanced and designed. What is the reasoning for removing these, or only "potentially" removing them? I don't exactly see the harm is allowing them to drop and be used in perpetuity.

Not much to add, legacy items are bad. Also, I don't like how the Ana/Ons only uniques are handled. I guess this is how you will deal with league-specific uniques in the upcoming leagues as well, feels a bit like forcing players to switch, but not everyone enjoys starting with an empty stash. :\

"Their stash tabs also transfer, but excess ones will become read-only. For a period of approximately two weeks, only Standard and Hardcore leagues will be available."


stash become remove only? but is gone in 2 weeks? sorry my english is not good

if anyone can answer me ill be grateful

well, legacy uniques make uniques more ... uniques :)

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mobutu wrote:

The only real solution to this real problem is: "correct" ALL items, do not allow several version of an item to co-exist.
Simple logic. Anything else is plain wrong.

Nerf all is not a satisfying solution either, depends on the nerf but people will be really mad if it does happen, and with good reason, especially true with best in class unique like Kaom , Shavronne, Lioneyes, Soul Taker etc... GGG won't do that, and they already did their decision in the past, we have ALREADY legacy unique in game. So the debate is already over.

The good reason is not that these unique doesnt deserve a nerf.. Maybe some of them does.
But you cannot state "HEY, people opinion doesnt matter, that's good for the game to nerf it all", this is simply not true, this is just a nerd statement without seeing half of the consequence about the game interest itself.
In the future , there will be new OP uniques, build enablers or simply just very powerfull. Who will spend shitload of time and currency to get it if they fear a coming nerf ? Nobody. People have to trust the game and GGG, or they won't play the game anymore or invest far less time in it.
PoE is a pure grinding game, and you won't grind anymore if you feel that the reward is fake.

The real thing to do for GGG is to better evaluate unique item before releasing them, unique like Soul Taker should not even exist. It's like a 1000 hp Kaom but 3 additionnal resist at 30 % and 5 linked sockets.. Just completely imba. Biggest mistake in the game ever.
Kaom has huge drawback ( no res, low armor , no link ), Shav a light drawback ( ES and res are only average ), Lioneyes and Soultaker has no drawback... GGG lost themselves somewhere. Maybe this is where they need to work, better evaluate unique gain/drawback before releasing them.

Koams nerf :o

You guys who are so focused on those legacy items that you won't have 'and me neither) need to stop looking at what the neighboor has and start enjoying yourself. It's a VIDEO GAME god damnit !! It's not real life !! It's not like your government is going to war and kill civilians, IT'S A FREAKING VIDEO GAME.

wtb 08 valk pst

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mobutu wrote:

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

legacy items are fine, they are not going to balance the game around legacy items and it doesnt effect you if someone has a legacy toy. I had a kaoms and a lioneyes, sold them, dont give a shit if some guy out there has an old kaoms and is enjoying himself. Some of you need to stop being so bitter, the game as far as it concerns you will not be impacted by some other dude having a legacy unique, get over it.

this dude doesnt even see the problem so what can you say to him? nothin'

actually u are the one to not understand , some people (a lot of people) grind really hard to get certain great uniques , maybe u have never done this before but many do , now i am not saying nerfing for good would be bad. Afterall it is beta and players should expect these kinda changes.. but this doesnt change the fact some people would feel kinda bad and this exactly one of the reasons that make people leave..

Now i also agree legacy items are pretty bad , unless ofcourse u apply the great idea of soulbinding the legacy items , its just pure win.U have the balanced items and u have happy customers in the same time , this way none of the new players will be affected and the market will stay sane too.Please dont make everything look illogical because it suits you more.

Anyway i am happy for the great news , looking forward to the new leagues and i do agree the new leagues only uniques are staying new leagues only uniqes :D. Cheers and gl with release GGG

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Malone wrote:

But you cannot state "HEY, people opinion doesnt matter, that's good for the game to nerf it all",

Sure you can. There's always going to be people mad about any decision, the best course is always to do whats best for the game long term.

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In the future , there will be new OP uniques,

I hope not, that would be GGG just shooting themselves in the foot and undermining their own design theory. Its funny that people refer to these uniques as best in class. They aren't just best in class they are best in slot period. Thats the problem.

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Zemel wrote:

You guys who are so focused on those legacy items that you won't have 'and me neither) need to stop looking at what the neighboor has and start enjoying yourself. It's a VIDEO GAME god damnit !! It's not real life !! It's not like your government is going to war and kill civilians, IT'S A FREAKING VIDEO GAME.

wtf are you talking about?