5 of the New Uniques (Check Them Out)*********

Frenzy/LMP or GMP/WED/Added Lightning. As many Increased Weapon Elemental mods on gear and nodes (both the elemental in the Templar tree and the lightning damage in the witch and Shadow trees.

This bow *is* going to be overpowered, I think...but holy shit could it have some potential to be fun.

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MonstaMunch wrote:

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ancalagon3000 wrote:

ARE YOU KIDDING ME LOL

No, though I assume you were when you referred to gavicius as a mob.

Bottom line is the bow has poor attack speed for an end game item, and for the purposes being discussed here a decent ele thicket would do a better job.

I still think it's an interesting item, and as someone else said, I don't think any of us have actually figured out what it's really for yet. It certainly isn't for LA or traditional ele bow builds, but I'm fairly sure it is great for something.

Look, none of us have tried it so we cant say 'its crap'. The fact that few mobs have any form of chaos resists is a huge bonus, you have to keep in mind.

Level 90. Next 2 levels are obviously Avoid Shock.
You can drop the Deep Thoughts mana cluster at the top when using Shavronnes due to being able to use your % auras on life.

Level 90 shavronne's version
NOTE: Remember that +30 int nodes are better than 6% ES nodes

People are missing another aspect of this bow. It doesn't sound like it only converts lightning attack damage, but all lightning damage. Playing spark and having a hard time with reflect elemental? You now shock with chaos damage from spark and can pick up a quiver with projectile speed. Since it's 2-handed you can even 6 link it. Like a proper unique, it has a downside, which is the loss of spell damage.

Won't help low life RF sporkers, since they need a shield and let the totems take the reflect. But, they didn't need help anyways.

Infernal mantle converts 25% of fire damage to chaos. Support incinerate or a fireball with added lightning, to make even more shocking chaos madness.

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ancalagon3000 wrote:

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MonstaMunch wrote:

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ancalagon3000 wrote:

ARE YOU KIDDING ME LOL

No, though I assume you were when you referred to gavicius as a mob.

Bottom line is the bow has poor attack speed for an end game item, and for the purposes being discussed here a decent ele thicket would do a better job.

I still think it's an interesting item, and as someone else said, I don't think any of us have actually figured out what it's really for yet. It certainly isn't for LA or traditional ele bow builds, but I'm fairly sure it is great for something.

Look, none of us have tried it so we cant say 'its crap'. The fact that few mobs have any form of chaos resists is a huge bonus, you have to keep in mind.

If you read my posts on this thread and the other one about it, I didn't say it's crap, and even offered 5 ex for the first person who sells me one to try out. I think it looks very interesting and there is a bunch of stuff I'd like to try with it.

That said, I do think it would be crap for LA in comparison to phys/lightning thickets, and I don't think traditional ele builds are what this is meant to be used for. Ele builds rely on attack speed, and this doesn't have any.

I'd be interested to hear justifications from people who are already claiming that this will be OP.

I guess monsta has me blocked or something?
His posts wouldn't make sense otherwise, seeing as i posted a wall of text explaining the bow already, and then followed it up with a second and third post including two builds.

I don't like the bow. it looks like something which will kill my beloved Darkscorn in comparison.
also, why no drawback? it does SHOCKING CHAOS DAMAGE for god's sake!

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Xendran wrote:

I guess monsta has me blocked or something?
His posts wouldn't make sense otherwise, seeing as i posted a wall of text explaining the bow already, and then followed it up with a second and third post including two builds.

No dude, I get it, you came out with a nice niche dual curse build that could make the bow work well. And that's exactly what I'm saying, when we have time to experiment a bit, I'm sure we'll find interesting things to do with it. At very least I'd like to have one in my alt weapon slot and use it instead of my lioneyes when I see reflect mobs.

I'm just saying that those who are suggesting it will be a suitable replacement for standard existing ele/LA builds are mistaken. It's going to require more imagination than that to make it useful.

If you mean such a specific statement as "it won't replace current LA builds" or "it will be crap with existing LA builds", say that.
All you said was "it will be crap for LA", which is blatantly untrue, seeing as the niche build i made for it is likely stronger than any other LA build in the game of equivelant survivability, and possibly the strongest LA build flat out.

The reason it won't replace current LA builds is because of the cost, both of getting the bow, the gear required for the bow, potentially a shavronnes, and needing to use two different pathings for before and after the bow unless you want to have a lot of levels where you get nothing.

The constant long lasting shocks multiplied with your projectile weakness and sometimes crit combined with the fact that you've still got ES Leech but now are also regenning nearly 500 ES per second is a huge boost on its own. Let alone adding in low life blood rage.

Reflect protection granting the ability to get 54% IAS and ~500/s ES regen is already godly, let alone the bonus 10% shock.

Actually speaking of shavronnes, using it will free up enough mana to add in Vitality. Granted i'd have to remove some active skills to run vitality on mana + 2 auras on life, but that's not a big deal, since i'm using 8 active skills, one of which doesn't need to be in my main gem slots (Detonate Dead).

That bow :o

I need it.