5 of the New Uniques (Check Them Out)*********

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Xendran wrote:

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.... People actually use this trash?

Yeah!

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Whats the recipe for the unique? :)

shouldn't 10% chance to shock be 10% increased chance to shock instead?

Whats the recipe for the unique? :)

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And yes, fully agree about the reflect thing. That's a big deal. But it implies you aren't planning to get high amounts of other ele damage, which kind of craps on the whole WED idea.

Not really, you just arent getting as much overall ele dmg as a tri-ele thicket. It's not like multiplying 50*1.5 + 50*1.7 is any better than 100*1.7. All that matters is the Total Elemental Damage compared to a thicket. It's not great, but it's enough to do some pretty crazy stuff, and its ALL chaos, which will go straight through ES as well as heavily influencing your ability to shock bosses.

Here's the big one though: That reflect immunity lets you totally ditch Vaal Pact. You can replace it with Zealot's Oath + Body and Soul, and drop ES boots for The Blood Dance. The loss of base ES is made up for by the Body and Soul cluster, and will break even.


6% Regen from frenzy charges, 4% evasion per charge, +evasion from the ES/Eva on right side of the tree, +armor from the left, iron reflexes, determination, grace, granites.

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Another big one: Shavronne's + Low Life Blood Rage + Blood Dance. Enough regen to still have a net positive (a 5% positive if you get 75 chaos res), especially if you have chaos resist, while having the low life attack speed boost always active. This is something you can't do with lioneye due to needing Vaal Pact. This is an extremely expensive, yet extremely effective way of regaining more attack speed than you lose by not using lioneye while still retaining reflect protection. 54% Increased Attack Speed with a 20Q20 gem.

As long as you're wary of lightning thorns, you'll be fine. Even with a non-qual leech gem, you'll be getting 26% of your health back every second if you deal enough damage, which can help out a lot with lightning thorns. ZO also means less retreating to recover ES, which will increase your clear speed despite not increasing your damage output.

I will say though, that you basically NEED to have dual curses and a good chunk of crit for this. And the curses you need to have are specific too, you have to run Critical Weakness + Projectile Weakness to make up for the lack of accuracy/Cannot Be Evaded and to compound the extra crit chance and damage with the 10% shock.

To make it really nuts, you can use damning AND the dual curse in the tree to stack Temporal Chains on to make shocks last even longer (useful for bosses and rares), and Conductivity to get another 14% shock chance, which is pretty good despite not getting any benefit from the lowered lightning res. I'd still prefer an ES + WED + Crit ring though.

I'd say this bow trades blows with, and is able to surpass, lioneye when built correctly, but is also much more limiting than lioneye in terms of the builds you can use effectively with it. And yeah, it requires dual curses so you either need to be a CI Bitch (bow witch) or use Damning/Windscream. Windscream is out for CI builds though, because there's no way that you wouldn't want to take dual/infinite/fast curse in the tree + zealot's oath.

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.... People actually use this trash?

Never used a lioneye LA build, eh?

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shouldn't 10% chance to shock be 10% increased chance to shock instead?

It would cap out at 2% Additional Shock Chance if this was on the bow. The 10% shock and higher lightning damage is meant to make up for the lack of raw DPS by giving you more frequent shocks that last longer and can shock stronger enemies. This compounds with your crit chance to give you very consistent, long shocks with this bow + Static Blows. It makes it much easier to stack 3 shocks, and if you build right you can stack all of these shocks at once on packs fairly consistently.

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MonstaMunch wrote:

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laburnum wrote:

now LA builds cant die to reflect

This isn't going to be a good bow to use with LA. Actually do the math and think about it in comparison to a regular thicket with phys and a normal lightning roll. The damage would be terrible.

I'm still waiting to find out which of the mods on it can be divined, if the APS can be increased substantially then there may be some hope for it yet.

All your lightning damage is converted to chaos, which CAN shock ... what resists chaos? Not a lot of mobs, AND you can ignore ES mobs like gravicius (big PITA with that massive ES)

WED should still apply to this, as its a converted damage type it still takes all the original element type's increases and more multipliers (in this case % increased lightning / lightning WED / WED for any x-x lightning damage)

And as someone mentioned, fuck reflect with this bow lol

The base lightning damage on it is insane, and LA still gets a physical conversion from the physical part

One thing to note is that this bow is very much meant for ES users, even if it wasn't intended. The reason for this is that it synergises extremely well with every aspect of ES, including the disadvantages.

Having shit strength means that you aren't going to lose anywhere close to a significant amount of damage by dropping Iron Grip (which i picked up on the lioneye build due to its proximity to vaal pact).

Having shit hp for stun is negated by chayula, or by staying at long range. With chayula, you can get close and go point blank and just leech + regen all of your ES back.

Oh yeah, and that point blank stacks again with your shock and crit hits making them even more powerful and lasting even longer. It's not hard to get your crit multiplier above 800% using bows and Critical Weakness, so throwing a 50% More Projectile Damage onto it makes crits completely ridiculous. Oh, and projectile weakness will knock things back, which will temporarily disengage melee attackers.

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ancalagon3000 wrote:

ARE YOU KIDDING ME LOL

No, though I assume you were when you referred to gavicius as a mob.

Bottom line is the bow has poor attack speed for an end game item, and for the purposes being discussed here a decent ele thicket would do a better job.

I still think it's an interesting item, and as someone else said, I don't think any of us have actually figured out what it's really for yet. It certainly isn't for LA or traditional ele bow builds, but I'm fairly sure it is great for something.

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MonstaMunch wrote:

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ancalagon3000 wrote:

ARE YOU KIDDING ME LOL

No, though I assume you were when you referred to gavicius as a mob.

Bottom line is the bow has poor attack speed for an end game item, and for the purposes being discussed here a decent ele thicket would do a better job.

I still think it's an interesting item, and as someone else said, I don't think any of us have actually figured out what it's really for yet. It certainly isn't for LA or traditional ele bow builds, but I'm fairly sure it is great for something.

Did you just completely ignore my last two posts?
Being able to drop vaal pact without having to worry about reflect gives you access to low life shavronnes for bows.

That means 54% IAS as well as some free auras on life, and with 75% chaos resist you still retain 5 out of the 6% ES regen per second with blood dance +2 frenzy passives +1 bandit charge. Lioneye can't do that without risking elemental reflect death.