Lioneye's Glare - Why an offensive bow?
" How is it totally random that while using the unique bow of an archer that uses a shield, you can use a shield too? |
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" Perhaps he keeps it on his weapon swap? |
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Xendran,what are you trying to tell with that post.An archer doesn't use a shield.Never.Not in this world.Only a retard could try to combine shield wit a bow.And it will fail.What's your point.Even in a computer game it's an absurd,that's why you'll never see it.
There were few exceptions in war history,like tagmatas,where a heavy geared soldier had to use bow as an exception,and these guys never pulled the bow with the shield on their right hand,but with shields on the ground. You say you do sports archery,tell me how can you pull a 50-70kg. war bow tension while holding a shield.Wtf retarded post. This is a buff © 2016
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" It has been done in a game. Total War: Rome for example, is one of them. The shield does not have to be massive, it can be a shield about the size of your head firmly attached to your wrist. Even if you somehow can use a giant shield, in most cases that individual is using a crossbow which acts like a gun in a way. I know in Grim Dawn, you can equip gun and shield. Of course, this game does not have to be that logical since zombies are not real to begin with as well walking skeletons. Sometimes you can take the game out of the garage but you can't take the garage out of the game.
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" Would be an awesome alternative to bow and quiver. Worn on the back when not in use, and takes a short duration to deploy and retrieve the shield for directional cover and possibly other benefits? Be all "I'm about to drop the hammer, and dispense some indiscriminate justice!" I would also like to see various crossbow tech. Your stock aRPG crossbow adaptation--high penetration (interperate for PoE as you will), slow rate of fire. But there is also historical precedence for repeating crossbows, that could be adapted as short bursts of very high rate of fire, followed by a cool down to represent reloading.
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And while we're on the topic, I'd also really like to see weighted cloaks added as dex/int shield-like chest pieces that forego any significant EV/ES for additional block chance as an inherent property, and nets as a str/dex shield that forego any significant block chance for some kind of synergistic offensive bonus.
But overall, I see no reason to change Lioneye's Glare. The shield, however, could be adapted to fit the above quote, but I believe it was more intended as a weapon swap. Devolving Wilds Land “T, Sacrifice Devolving Wilds: Search your library for a basic land card and reveal it. Then shuffle your library.” Last edited by CanHasPants#3515 on Aug 20, 2013, 5:05:12 PM
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Crossbowmen with a shield?Nonsense.They used paveses,same as archers.You can't reload a crossbow with a shield in your hand.Those small shields you speak about are called bucklers and were used by heavy armored soldiers (where's almost no need of them),either by light,or non armored men,usually in Victorian age.A person cannot use buckler or whatever shield with a missile weapon,because he cannot reload the weapon.First.Second,shield is an offensive weapon (yeah!) and is used to bash enemies and deflect blows to place the opponent in a vulnerable position.A retard with a pistol, or crossbow,combined with a shield,has only one try before being ripped off by the enemy and it makes shield not needed.
I got GD on my computer and I found this mechanic retarded,though I never saw it in a game before.It's ridiculous. Personal opinion. This is a buff © 2016 The Experts ™ 2017 Last edited by torturo#7228 on Aug 20, 2013, 5:12:28 PM
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It would be far easier to balance such an item as a unique shield that could be used with bows and two handed weapons.
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" And does it make sense to shoot arrows unlimited times, and to be able to access arrows without having a quiver equipped? Where is the logic in that sort? I understand where you are coming from, but this game is fictional. Now do we expect the laws of physics to be broken......no. Adding the ability to use shield to a certain bow class is not impossible. Even if you find the mechanic to be a nonsense, I do not. It builds diversity that way. Sometimes you can take the game out of the garage but you can't take the garage out of the game. - raics, 06.08.2016 Last edited by JohnNamikaze#6516 on Aug 20, 2013, 6:02:43 PM
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" I'd have to agree with Flicker on this one. You linked a pic of the ideal "D2 Amazon", her shield is on her back, while her bow occupies two hands. This is pretty well represented already in-game with weapon swap. Could you strap a small leather shield to your arm and have it "not get in the way", yeah sure, but PoE is more about give and take than just give (and thank god for that). I could see GGG developing a shield that could be equipped with a bow AROUND that theory, but to design a bow around "oh yeah, and you can use a shield" seems silly. I would imagine any well-equipped warrior such as Marceus Lioneye to be ready for any situation; so yeah, he might carry a bow for ranged encounters, or to wear down an enemy -- and yeah, I'm sure he carried a 1h sword and shield for close encounters. As far as incorporating 1h crossbows... these have always bothered me in games (namely d3) because it's very, very unrealistic. Could you carry a gun and a shield in a real life situation, sure, a pistol, but you're not going to carry a rifle and a shield. This would be more akin to a 2h bow and shield --- at the end of the day, you only have two arms, not three. I'm all for 2h crossbows with a higher damage range, but slower attack speed, but even then, cries of foulplay would arise if you could use a higher damage range weapon and still a quiver (much like D3). Last edited by Fenyx_187#3959 on Aug 20, 2013, 5:40:56 PM
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Got it.What you guys speak is about implementation of 1H missile weapons in this game.According to their nature they should be fast AS low dmg.Ok.But how and what about ballance.Imagine LA onehander with a shield.He could get max block,completely ignoring evasion and armor,manipulating ele dmg boost to beat shit of it all.No txs.
This is a buff © 2016 The Experts ™ 2017 Last edited by torturo#7228 on Aug 20, 2013, 6:03:28 PM
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