So I chanced an Occulist's Vestment

Didn't know it was a hard videogame. That's all right then.

I'll sit here patiently waiting for the "I wanna be the boshy" unique then.

I don't get the hating on this item.
People seem to not get that it doesn't block Shav out, it still has the same chance to be rolled.

I like this item, it's well designed and has a drawback you have to build around, only the art is ugly tbh.

Thanks for making this awesome item Raven!

Edit: That akward moment when you say thanks to the wrong person :/

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AmenAnthem wrote:

I don't get the hating on this item.
People seem to not get that it doesn't block Shav out, it still has the same chance to be rolled.

I like this item, it's well designed and has a drawback you have to build around, only the art is ugly tbh.

Thanks for making this awesome item Charan!

The item sucks. It doesn't interfere with normal drops, but it halves(or as evidence suggests, more than that) the chance to get a shavs from chancing. If it takes 500 chances on average to make a unique, it would raise that all the way to 1000+ depending on if it is weighted or not. Before you could 6l and occultists and scour chaance it for a shavs eventually. Chances are what, 8:1 chaos? So 240 in an exalt, and scours are 60 to an exalt, taking roughly 3 ex for chances and 10 for scours. 13ex, which is far far lower than it is now at 22+. With infernal mantel however, you double that, and also may need eternals if you go for a 6l on your white item. The item itself is 100% inferior to a searing touch for any fire based build. The fire-chaos damage destroys your burn damge, resulting in alot of dps lost. The +damage on low mana is really insane, it makes get 1 shot very easy.

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Swords36 wrote:

It doesn't interfere with normal drops, but it halves(or as evidence suggests, more than that) the chance to get a shavs from chancing.

I'm just going to quote this statement from Mark.

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Mark_GGG wrote:

If you've chanced a lot of occult vestments and gotten Infernal Mantles, then if Infernal Mantle didn't exist, those would probably have been rare vestments, not Shavronnes.

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Swords36 wrote:

The item itself is 100% inferior to a searing touch for any fire based build. The fire-chaos damage destroys your burn damge, resulting in alot of dps lost. The +damage on low mana is really insane, it makes get 1 shot very easy.

Imo it is better then Searing Touch for pure glasscannon gameplay. My current build doesn't focus on burn, so I don't really care about the dps-loss you get with IM. The thing about the Chaos-damage property is that it makes glasscannons possible against damagereflection because you take a lot less damage. The low mana property is harsh but it forces you to build around it, which is possible without any trouble at all.

I don't know but the current situation just looks like people are mad because the can't get their hands on a Shav and blame everything possible.
It is supposed to be rare, I mean, look at it, this thing is way too good to drop/be chanced like crazy.

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CharanJaydemyr wrote:

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Hornet85 wrote:

I'm convinced that's a troll item. Can't see any use for it with the increased damage taken at low mana.

Would YOU pay $1000 to make a troll item?

Oh, some people say they would, but if the crunch came, of course not. You'd make something you thought was cool or interesting and based on your own experiences.

This is not a troll item.

My first iteration of my first unique idea came pretty close to a troll item. It got scrapped though, for various balance reasons.

I'm looking at the wands, and out of the three, I can't tell which one is the MLP reference.

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I guess that's a good thing.

I'd like to join ur group, i'm at 6 infernals.

I think this item is based on OCCUltist vestment because the character it is based on is nicknamed OKU. I lol'd when I saw that.

Edit : to previous post : it seems to be moonsorrow as a skull and a void battery aren't MLP-like, and the wand look pretty much like a unicorn horn.

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Mark_GGG wrote:

Chance orbs do not work like that (any more - they did for a little bit after the tiers of unique rarity were introduced, I believe). They do not have a flat chance to obtain a unique, regardless of how "rare" that unique is supposed to be. If the only unique of a base type is a rarely occurring one, then chances have a low chance to get uniques on that base type. Adding a more common unique to the same type means that chances on that item will have an significantly increased chance to roll uniques (but if they do, the unique is likely to be the more common one). If you've chanced a lot of occult vestments and gotten Infernal Mantles, then if Infernal Mantle didn't exist, those would probably have been rare vestments, not Shavronnes.

Ahh it's such a relief to hear this, thank you! :D

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Also;
It wasn't my intention to bash/allow people to bash the Infernal Mantle when I first made the thread. I just thought how unlucky I was to have gotten 4 mantles so far, and no Shavs. Again, I only care about the challenges and not about builds/diamond support bashing or anything of that sort ^^