Death Penalty Changes in 0.11.3

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Sodomee wrote:

The death penalty change is a huge mistake. 90% of the players who complain about the penalty are dying in places like ledge, catacombs, and docks at level 80. Please listen to the people who actually build defensively and do endgame maps. If you are going to lower the penalty, please do something to benefit the players who play without dying.

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SW_Bonobo wrote:

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glockenrock wrote:

I don't like the new death changes. The current XP losses would be fine, EXCEPT it is damn hard to get 15% XP when you're level 80+. That is the source of frustration. Make it easier to level at high levels, and the 15% XP penalty won't hurt as much.

Where would be the afford in this?

If you increase EXP gain at Level 80 we would have the same dicussion at Level 90.
If some Players would reach level 100 they start complaining, that there is nothing more to do!

The Companies name is Grinding Gear Games for a reason!

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Sodomee wrote:

The death penalty change is a huge mistake. 90% of the players who complain about the penalty are dying in places like ledge, catacombs, and docks at level 80. Please listen to the people who actually build defensively and do endgame maps. If you are going to lower the penalty, please do something to benefit the players who play without dying.

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Kamikave wrote:

The penalty in cruel was fine, it's easy to get back the lost experience.

In merciless however, I always wait until I level up before attacking any powerfull boss, that way the penalty reduces my xp to none, and I can die as much as I need without penalty.

If you don't do something about that, 8% or 15% won't make any difference.

That being said, I stopped playing because of sync problems that caused my character to die meaninglessly. I got tired of killing monsters just to get back what the penalty cost me.

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doritoburrito wrote:

Good move GGG. The penalty was too high to keep more casual gamers interested after hitting the wall known as act 3 cruel. The hardcore guys have their league, as if anyone takes softcore progression seriously anyway. Keep doing whats best for long term success of the game =)

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Sodomee wrote:

The death penalty change is a huge mistake. 90% of the players who complain about the penalty are dying in places like ledge, catacombs, and docks at level 80. Please listen to the people who actually build defensively and do endgame maps. If you are going to lower the penalty, please do something to benefit the players who play without dying.

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Clobercow wrote:

Extra Credits channel on YouTube made a very good video about this very topic of punishment. Watch it.

He said that a game should be difficult and rewarding, but not punishing. This keeps players interested. Anytime we are punished, that detracts from the experience. Hardcore IS the choice for people who want risk. Desync IS the reason I don't play HC. It's punishing without any reward (Desync). Experience penalties are punishing also. It gives the impression that time was wasted.

What needs to happen, is a mechanic should implement do deter attrition while REWARDING the player for playing the game. It should remain difficult, and never a waste of time.

So get rid of the EXP punishment, and find a way to stop the player from zerging a boss. If you can't do that, then be on the player's side and just ditch the EXP Punishment.