{3.2.0} Spectral Gods: [Life Based Spectre/Golem Hybrid Summoner | Clear Speed | End Game Bossing]

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guyonwabbit wrote:
hex master doesnt seem worth 3 points when ur using curse on hit is that something u take last?


We grab it not for the duration but for the +5% curse effectiveness stat. That is among the last things I stat into the build and is considered luxury.

Necronomicon: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617098
Build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/409940
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Hi there^^

I like the idea of stopping time with spells (well, I like temporal magic ;) ) and it's great that you can do that in this game (and there's no cap for slow), so I've got a few questions about this build.
I'm new and still playing the compaign on cruel, so some question(s) might be obvious for you guy(s)...


1.
You are using that sword and shield bec. of All Res.? I would think about using Queen's Decree Ornate Sword (the summoner-sword so to say) but - sadly - it has 0 defensive stats and is a 2-hander. ):

2.
Is there a way to "conservate" the minions you have summoned so that you don't have to search/hunt again when you log in next time?

3.
You only use 1 curse but you have Whispers of Doom??

4.
About your 6-linked-socket armor:
Spell Echo --> gives 2 spectres out of 1 corpse?
Chain --> no idea why you use it...

5.
Is summoner viable for fighting the real hard bosses (in the campaign)? I guess that all minons will die more or less instantly when fighting someone like Malakai? And a summoner without minions is like...


thx
Last edited by Ethiliel#0662 on Jul 20, 2015, 12:46:54 PM
Hello, Ethiliel, Welcome to the Path of Exile. Its a great game and hope u enjoy your stay.

1.
I am using a sword because of Whirling blades. It is my main movement mechanic. You can of course use a claw or dagger with whirling blades as well. That 60% you get from aurumvorax makes finding gear for your other slots extremely easy, especially in a new league. You will quickly realize that this game punishes you extremely hard for lacking on defense. When I build any character I always think of my defense first before my offense.

2.
Nope. Its one of the things summoners in general have to deal with and i believe we are balanced b/c of that too.

3.
If you read my post carefully I suggested two kinds of setups.

6L Curse setup -> This maximizes your safety
4L Spectre

6L Spectre setup -> Maximizes your dps
4L Curse setup

For just 1 pt investment I can go back and forth between these two setups depending on the situation.

4.
If you read my calculations section towards the bottom of the guide I explained in very fine detail the mathematical calculations of why those two skill gems are essential.

I will give you a TR;DL;

Echo will cause your spectre two shoot 2 volleys of 5 bolts instead of one. In order to raise spectre more easily you should unequip the echo gem then add the gem back in once the spectre has been raised. Chain will greatly increase your dps. Imagine all 10 of those bolts hitting a pack. Now they will all chain and there are now 20 bolts. You literally double your dps with one gem no other support gem can do that.

5.
I will try to write a section in full detail on how to handle boss fights. High AoE dmg is something that summoners always had trouble with.


Necronomicon: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617098
Build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/409940
Summoner Dischord: https://discord.gg/XwWdSUa
Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/zhoukon
Really annoying when guides are not using the official Passive Tree viewer.
I just got a little confused when u changed the guide.
So if im using the 6L Spectre i should be using only 1 curse? or is it worth to use
Firestorm + CoH + 2 curses ?
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DokoOo wrote:
I just got a little confused when u changed the guide.
So if im using the 6L Spectre i should be using only 1 curse? or is it worth to use
Firestorm + CoH + 2 curses ?


Apologies. I should definitely try and explain the setup a little better on the guide. I think everything in my the build will start to make sense once I produce a video guide explaining all of the mechanics. I just had not found any time recently to sit down for a session and do so =/.

Essentially this build has two 'modes'.

A all out DPS mode, which consists of a 6L Spectre and a 4L Glove. Or corrupted Glove with + to elemental weakness curse. Which will allow you to take advantage of the +2 curse on tree.

A all out Defensive mode, which consists of 6L curse setup to utilize enhance and 21/20 or 20/23 curses. And a 4L Spectre setup.

My spell choice has since changed because I want to abuse the 'slow' mechanic

Necronomicon: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617098
Build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/409940
Summoner Dischord: https://discord.gg/XwWdSUa
Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/zhoukon
Last edited by mattc3303#7526 on Jul 21, 2015, 8:03:16 AM
thx for the fast answer :)
(@Chain: I didn't know how that skill worked. Working that way sounds good;) )

umm, 2 additional questions:

1.
What's CoH ?

2.
about resistences and survivability (of minions):
From what I have found (http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Raise_Zombie) zombies have a 35 innate All Res on any difficulty. Spectres have their own respective innate Resistances/Armor when you summon them as far as I know.

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I guess you can't do anything about a minions armor? (i.e. give them better pyhsical damage reduction? Or is that simply unnecessary bec all the real bad/strong monsters/bosses do some sort of elemental damage?

You have left out a few %-max-life-passives and the choas-res.-nod for minions. Is chaos res. not necessary? (And the few &-minion-life-passives are luxury then I guess?)

thx^^
Hi! First off I would like to thank you for the build. It's been working very well this far for me in Warbands.

I have a question about the Animate Guardian mechanic though. I have tried to google some information about it but I thought it would be better to just ask it here.

If I use the Animate Guardian spell on the uniques Leer cast and Dying Breath, it will consume the items right?

Also, if and when the Guardian dies, will it still have these buffs from Leer+Dying when I bring it back?

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mattc3303 wrote:
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DokoOo wrote:
I just got a little confused when u changed the guide.
So if im using the 6L Spectre i should be using only 1 curse? or is it worth to use
Firestorm + CoH + 2 curses ?


Apologies. I should definitely try and explain the setup a little better on the guide. I think everything in my the build will start to make sense once I produce a video guide explaining all of the mechanics. I just had not found any time recently to sit down for a session and do so =/.

Essentially this build has two 'modes'.

A all out DPS mode, which consists of a 6L Spectre and a 4L Glove. Or corrupted Glove with + to elemental weakness curse. Which will allow you to take advantage of the +2 curse on tree.

A all out Defensive mode, which consists of 6L curse setup to utilize enhance and 21/20 or 20/23 curses. And a 4L Spectre setup.

My spell choice has since changed because I want to abuse the 'slow' mechanic




Oh no problems, thanks for answering!
I kinda understood what you were talking about
My doubt was really when you use the 4L curse setup you need GMP for CoH and Arctic Breath so you cant really abuse the dual curse. The only way to use the dual curse would be to use the 6L curse set? Or maybe go back to firestorm ?
@Ethiliel
What's CoH ? Curse on Hit

about resistances and survivability (of minions):
refer to this : http://poedb.tw/us/gem.php?n=Raise+Zombie

you can even look up the spectre name in this db and get the res

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I guess you can't do anything about a minions armor? (i.e. give them better pyhsical damage reduction? Or is that simply unnecessary bec all the real bad/strong monsters/bosses do some sort of elemental damage?


Physical damage is almost always a non-issue. You mitigate this with the ridiculous life pool of minions and regen. Smart convocation teleports. Animation flasks.

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You have left out a few %-max-life-passives and the choas-res.-nod for minions. Is chaos res. not necessary? (And the few &-minion-life-passives are luxury then I guess?


Since most of the dmg comes from spectre and NOT zombies. They are reserved for tanking. Chaos res resist feels unnecessary as not that many end game bosses do chaos. Again do this.
ridiculous life pool of minions and regen. Smart convocation teleports. Animation flasks.

@enigmahod
No problem man, i'm glad its working well =P.

Yes Animate Guardian (AG) will combine the items on use. (Think the metal golem in d2)

No unfortunately when AG dies he loses the items.
Necronomicon: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617098
Build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/409940
Summoner Dischord: https://discord.gg/XwWdSUa
Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/zhoukon

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