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Huaojozu wrote:
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iamacyborg wrote:

Food for thought - if GGG were the cold-hearted capitalists you're saying they are, don't you think they'd be going with far more of a P2W system?


Actually, if they were smart capitalists, they would never go for a P2W system since overwhelming majority of their community is against it - that means less revenue in the long run. Instead, they would keep extremely warm relationship with their players and play on their hearts rather than their brains. They would make themselves out in a poorer light, frequently mention how they are just scraping by due to paying all the costs and that they really hope to get some more revenue in the future to keep making the content for a game they really really love.

Of course, that's only if they were calculating, manipulative capitalists.

Sidenote: There is no way designing a new monster actually costs 12,5K. Assuming development is ongoing and more areas with more monsters will be introduced in the future, the monster that the player designs will simply take the space of another monster in an appropriate area, that would have to be developed. Therefore yes, you have to create a monster now, HOWEVER, you save yourselves the costs of developing one in the future. And considering how long it takes for custom items, custom monsters will probably come alongside their new areas anyway.

So the only additional costs to making a player-inspired monster are the costs incurred in communicating with the player and fine-tuning everything to a slightly different standard. Definitely not 12,5K.


You are such a cleaver cookie monster :)

The force is strong in this one.....

+1 for intellegence.

Regards.
www.tachi203.com : For live streams, gameplay, news of me +(.

It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence. - Mohandas Gandhi
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tachi203 wrote:

Aslong as they can keep you sheeple buying the same re-hashes...Who cares about new content....hahahahah


Did you not notice the regular patches for the Free to play game that have been adding skills, content, and cool events?

They are a business, but I don't know if the money they've made so far has even covered the development costs - I'm happy to keep supporting them as I've spent more time playing this free game than D3 & Torchlight 2 combined.


You are by far...The worst kind of consumer...

Its not your job to care if they go under....

Its your job to get a good deal, play the best game, make the best choices with your money...

How on earth, is you telling a competitive company..."Take a break bro... I'll give you my money anyway...Even if you do the bare minimum" a good thing...

If you do that...This game is doomed....

-1.....

Regards.
www.tachi203.com : For live streams, gameplay, news of me +(.

It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence. - Mohandas Gandhi
Last edited by tachi203#2942 on Jun 7, 2013, 11:52:55 AM
This is a free to play game that you don't even have to donate to play and there are still some noodges here complaining. People are doing it out of kindness, love, and support. Something these mooks just can't comprehend I take it. You can tell by the long overblown posts that people are just skimming by that it irritates them.

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tachi203 wrote:
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Vermin wrote:
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tachi203 wrote:

Aslong as they can keep you sheeple buying the same re-hashes...Who cares about new content....hahahahah


Did you not notice the regular patches for the Free to play game that have been adding skills, content, and cool events?

They are a business, but I don't know if the money they've made so far has even covered the development costs - I'm happy to keep supporting them as I've spent more time playing this free game than D3 & Torchlight 2 combined.


You are by far...The worst kind of consumer...

Its not your job to care if they go under....

Its your job to get a good deal, play the best game, make the best choices with your money...

How on earth, is you telling a competitive company..."Take a break bro... I'll give you my money anyway...Even if you do the bare minimum" a good thing...

If you do that...This game is doomed....

-1.....

Regards.


Define 'good deal'? There are no deals, this shit is fluff, it gives us no advantage, therefore we're all sheep and should all die in fire and it's our fault that game is doomed to fail.

We shouldn't support them, we should force them to do pay2win so good customers like you can get good deals and game flourishes. We are digging their graves by supporting at all, we don't get anything in return.

You're aware what you're talking about? Where you are? What is a 'customer' in a place where there's nothing worthwhile to buy? These are the wrong game forums, sorry. Noone should ever pay anything by 'customer' logic cause everything is totally and completely worthless.

/rant off
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tachi203 wrote:
bunch of stuff


Reply in spoilers since off-topic.

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Ok yeah you do get it ;), you got me there a bit. I tend to do the same if I get unreasonable responses I tend to flame and become offensive in return. Just to annoy the forum moderators and GGG so that maybe they change their forum policy. I always manage to do this on the balance line so no probation yet. Must say haven;t done it this week and I let a few opportunities slip.

Take for example the dual wield weapon effect argument. One person at least called people that brought this up whiney ptiful QQ-ers. I think his post should be immediately deleted as it is a valid argument. The only valid counter argument would be: currently technically this is not possible, or: it is better that dual wielders buy the effects two times, no matter the cost. I see this as the best sales strategy GGG can do." Instead you have to live with the pathetic flame and total non discussion. Seriously moderation could step a lot as far as I am concerned. I do feel like still quoting this guy and turning on the flame war only way to get a thread completely cleaned up it seems :D




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Haha, Dont worry dude..... The forum mods arnt here to make this game a better place or even the forum discussion, theyre here to keep order and surpress upper managements views on negative opinion.

Its happened to me here before, they leactured me for days about how wrong I am.... And months later I came back and the same moderators are then makeing out like bandits that my opinion was really theirs and how they regret it....

Being ahead of the average consumer curve has no benefits unfortunatly, unless your sitting at the top of it, rigging the system.

best to just do the best you can to warn people, change things for the better and get made out as insane by the common folk and hung and shoot for it.....A much better fate than one of the sheeple marching to their own much worse fate lol.

regards.
www.tachi203.com : For live streams, gameplay, news of me +(.

It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence. - Mohandas Gandhi
Last edited by tachi203#2942 on Jun 7, 2013, 12:14:15 PM
I have done my best
[img]http://i.imgur.com/hrw55.gif[/img]
Frankly, i was disappointed with another supporter forum title.

I would have preferred each supporter level to have a different avatar
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Sweet. Key chain and T-shirt allow me to flaunt my PoE allegiances (and market for you) at my son's little league games.

Note: In your next round of supporter packs (Release time frame?), hoping for a black Tabula Rasa T-shirt. That's more my style. If that is available even now and I just didn't see it, even better. You have my money either way.
Last edited by Tindraa#7630 on Jun 7, 2013, 12:12:51 PM
Oh man, that tabula rasa shirt is absolutely fantastic. I do hope these shirts are sold individually in the future :)
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DeathDiciple wrote:

Define 'good deal'? There are no deals, this shit is fluff, it gives us no advantage, therefore we're all sheep and should all die in fire and it's our fault that game is doomed to fail.

We shouldn't support them, we should force them to do pay2win so good customers like you can get good deals and game flourishes. We are digging their graves by supporting at all, we don't get anything in return.

You're aware what you're talking about? Where you are? What is a 'customer' in a place where there's nothing worthwhile to buy? These are the wrong game forums, sorry. Noone should ever pay anything by 'customer' logic cause everything is totally and completely worthless.

/rant off


I would define what a good deal is for you.... Under the condition that you understand that 2 is a greater value that 1 (2>1) and that 0 means nothing...

kk.... Im just guessing you do understand then.

So..... If you understand that more is better, and that greater value is better... Then we can agree that anything that subtracts value from product(Frill or not) that is unnessasarly doing so... Is bad. aka 2-1=1 which is bad... Subtracting value is always bad....

Unless of course somone has a gun to your face and says give me your wallet!.

Sooo....

Im just messing with you dude....

Your obviously cherry picking my arguments, and thus nolonger have relevance..

Good day to you sir.

Regards.

I would ask you to pass the bong over...But I afraid if I do so.... You might start makeing sense...

www.tachi203.com : For live streams, gameplay, news of me +(.

It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence. - Mohandas Gandhi

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