Path Of Exile 2, from 500k to 50k players
" Unless you're one of those people who only thinks divines and mirrors are good loot, there is quite a lot of stuff on the ground. If they opened the game up and allowed more builds to flourish, there would be a lot more value to the stuff thats dropping right now. Solve one problem and you solve another. |
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" Yeah but that's your widely claimed opinion. |
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"Only if you take is literally. "Everybody is mad at PoE2" can refer to many things, like: - Everybody he knows - Everybody he is referring to - Everybody he has seen and so on. It's kinda interesting that you take a clickbait title that uses the word "everybody", when he does not claim in the video itself that it's everybody. [Removed by Support]
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" Well, considering that there was something like a review bombing, the streamers sharing a lot of words all of a sudden like: "unfun", "vision", "patch 0.2", etc., the fact that there has been a lot of unjustified criticism towards the game that is non-constructive, for example saying it's "trash", reducing the whole game to one word without elaboration or while pointing to those "keywords" like "vision", which seem to me to serve more of a psychological effect than that of logical debate, taken all that into consideration and also how rude (in my opinion) Ziz was during the interview, making it seem as if his opinion was as valuable as that of the devs (to me it seemed that way), it would appear that a simple "mistake" or "misleading phrase" in a thumbnail serving as clickbait could be seen as part of the bigger picture, wouldn't you agree? |
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"Doesn't matter what my "wildly claimed opinion" is. There wasn't an opinion in the presented data. Furthermore, your poor attempts to discredit my opinion with "wildly" do not reflect anything I wrote, period. You always advocate for being "constructive", but you ignore being constructive as long as it serves your narrative. Here are some examples that show you what's not constructive and why: 1. "This is not constructive criticism." Does not offer a possible solution to give constructive criticism. 2. "I like PoE2" Does not elaborate why. 3. "That's not what early access is about" Does not explain what Early Access is about. 4. "I feel like your points are mostly just rhetoric." Does not present why it feels like it. 5. "Ok bye" Does not relate to the initial comment, but instead antagonises. 6. "He was wrong, I am right." Does not point out why someone is right or wrong. 7. "I don't agree with you." Does not specify why. [Removed by Support]
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" Ok, first of all you misread. I called it your "widely" claimed opinion and not "wildly". 1. I do not have to offer constructive criticism in order to show people who do not offer constructive criticism how constructive criticism looks like. But if you want me to do it, I think the endgame strategy overlay perspective lacks challenge and it'd be nice if there was some kind of "pushback" from an AI force or something to make you choose more carefully where you go next. Could be tied into the corruption mechanic and maybe inspired by strategy games like Stellaris. Also another constructive feedback: the game systems do not seem to work together that well at the moment. It does seem like loot is out of touch with progression a lot of the time and this is one point I probably agree with you. In PoE 1 I didn't have that feeling, thinking that often times I was able to pick up loot that helped me right now. In PoE 2 I don't have that feeling. Crafting is gambling and needs to be improved. PoE 1 did it better with the crafting recipes, which are sorely missing in PoE 2. Also it seems to me that the skill tree in PoE 1 was making you think harder about your choices. Mixing two different weapon sets isn't very rewarding right now. Endgame seems to be mostly about finding some kind of unique item that allows for some gruel combination that makes the whole screen explode, instead of making all the systems in the game work together properly, like combos of skills, different weapon sets, etc. It seems to me the game needs more polish in this regard, because some of the systems in the game outvalue other systems at some points in your progression and that is usually due to a lack of polish. I could say more,... See the difference between this and "the game is trash" or "the patch sucks" or "the vision sucks"? My problem with saying this to be honest is that I should go into a lot more detail to claim why I see these things as problematic, even offering evidence for it via documentation of what happens in the game while I play it. But I don't have the time for this and honestly, GGG would have to pay me as a playtester if they wanted quality feedback like that. 2. I like PoE 2, because of the difficulty and challenge it provides, that I do not find in any other ARPG on the market right now. It makes me learn the mechanics, systems, play well, pay attention and have the feeling that I am being challenged by the computer, which is what a good game should do. And it does that in a way which creates strategical patterns in my playstyle which value things like economy, positioning, skill and proper use of tools, atleast until you find some kind of broken build or overpowered mechanic. And I don't like that tbh. Also the music, presentation, art, voice acting, "flavor", mechanic design, combat and theme of the game are really well done in my opinion, although sometimes a little bit too grimdark just for the sake of it (Queen of Filth, hello). 3. Early access is about seeing how the game systems you developed, which you know how they work in theory and in "lab-tests" work when you do "field-tests" with them, so when you present them to a wider audience. Analytical data about the field tests should lead to a better product from this point forward. Also, things that I liked about the patch were for example the 100 more support gems that were added in 0.2. And I do fear that if the devs listen to feedback too much, they will maybe neglect important work like that, which is essential into making the game better, because it actually adds to the mechanics, build variety and so on. GGG is known to surprise the community with unexpected changes, which add value to the game no other or few other companies dare to do. I want to see more of this in the game, because it could make the game really great and it needs that. 4. I said why I felt like this in many of my posts. 5. I admit that sometimes I might've stooped down to a level that I felt adequate to the athmosphere in threads like these. 6. I am continuously pointing out through logic why somebody is wrong. 7. I just pointed out why I don't agree with you. Last edited by Naharez#3496 on Apr 26, 2025, 7:26:43 AM
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no no no no, naharez you are clearly wrong
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I feel like Naharez is wrong . My interpetation is that his interpetation of my interpetation is false
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"Again, the "wildly" is there to discredit it, no matter if it refers to the "wild opinion" or "claiming it wildly". "If you tell someone that "this is not constructive" with a response that is not constructive, you are hypocritical, asking for something you don't provide. "So, if you communicate on a specific "level" - it's ok and justified, but everyone else doing it too, especially with another opinion - it not. "Your "logic" is your logic, doesn't equal being right. "And I pointed out this hypocritical behaviour because, as you probably noticed, all these points were direct quotes from you. [Removed by Support]
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" You misread again. W i d e l y not w i l d l y |
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