Warning for Ultra widescreen Mod after I disabled it

This is the most PETTIEST form of thing the dev should consider a cheat. Having a big screen is immersive and FUN. I ran 3 monitors for a couple years during the earlier nvsurround hype and loved it in many games.

This game on my 21:9 doesnt even register any clicks outside the center area of the display anyhow. Who cares if someone plays on super ultrawide! If anything they are more likely to have FPS issues anyhow to offset the perceived advantage in a 'non competitive' game ... who cares....really GGG come on this is mega petty.

The only people that are gonna scream cheat are simply jelly people.

If super UW makes X person love POE experience even more that should be supported not chastised.

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Akuma#3507 wrote:

no one would quit, when they would add native 32:9 support.

i quitted, becaused they 1. dont have native 32:9 support 2. they killed the possibility to play in 32:9 & are threatening to ban people, who just want to play solo 32:9. in 2025. in a game where its technically - as proven - no problem. all arguments against 32:9 are bs imho.

Exactly, completely agree with you. It makes sense to give counter feedback on something you would be affected by, but aspect ratio is very binary in this sense - either you have a widescreen and your affected by it, or you don't have that and you're not.

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rhalbhub#0570 wrote:

The only people that are gonna scream cheat are simply jelly people.

Yep completely agree. To have that mindset takes some serious external locus of control.
And the only way to be competitive at a high level is to have internal locus of control.

There are so many levels to skill, aspect ratio doesn't factor in at all. If you are finding a way to abuse being able to see further on the sides you automatically lost the competition anyways as it would be a slow approach and not how the game is played at high level.

I have 3 PC setups, only one of them has the ultra widescreen. When I'm playing on my 21:9 screen it doesn't bother me. But it bothers me a lot when I'm on my 32:9 setup.

I play exclusively Hardcore SSF, and there's only 1 of my PC setups where I would ever do a juiced T15 map, and it's NOT related to the widescreen at all. It's mainly because of other differences in hardware that result in lower FPS.
FPS makes a much bigger difference and rendering on an ultrawide costs some amount of FPS.

And there are other disadvantages to playing ultrawide too besides FPS drop. For example slower inventory management as the space between inventory and stash tabs is wider.

I noticed the economic perspective was being brought up. It's actually pretty much exclusively a bad decision for GGG to not support ultrawide. Because no one would leave the game over the decision to support it. Meanwhile people are leaving the game over it not being supported - like Legend#8685.

And I'm the type of person that likes having a few interests that I do A LOT, and I usually don't mind spending 1000s of dollars on my hobbies either. That could have been PoE 2 for me, but it won't be without ultrawide support. I was planning on spending 100+ dollars on character slots and stash tabs when I got the warning. Instead I decided not to spend that money on PoE 2 as long as they don't support ultrawide and changed my steam review to negative.

So from an economic perspective I would say it's ALSO a purely bad decision by GGG.

There are so many levels to skill, and whether or not you have a wider aspect ratio ranks so far down the list of things that matter skill wise its not even funny.

It would be great if GGG could confirm that ultrawide support is a simple technical issue that they are working on. The reason I'm skeptical of this is because they decided to ban 21:9 aspect resolutions in their race event forcing players all the way down to 16:9. That indicates to me that GGG has an out of touch idea of the level of impact of aspect ratios.

Of course they want to ban people for using 32:9. As if they haven't already made enough bad design decisions for this game.

Honestly, based on how they've designed the game I'm shocked they let us use anything beyond a 4:3 ratio.

It's 2025 FFS. I'm so sick of companies dictating how I play my games, especially since I'm not doing anything competitive at all. I miss the days when you could buy a game and just play it however you want without the developer standing over your shoulder watching you.

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I noticed the economic perspective was being brought up. It's actually pretty much exclusively a bad decision for GGG to not support ultrawide. Because no one would leave the game over the decision to support it. Meanwhile people are leaving the game over it not being supported - like Legend#8685.

EXACTLY.

I was going to buy a 31:9 JUST TO PLAY POE2 and glad I saw this thread.

Why not bring in more gamers than alienate them over their PC setup.

I mean really this has no PVP aspect whatsoever and at best you might get a slight "awareness" advantage going East/West. Does that impact me? If you play that way? NO.

Pros
You see more screen real estate
You have more enjoyment

Cons
You can't really interact outside the area the dev lets you anyhow (even on 21:9)
Still have the N/S limitations
Lower FPS - Big Herald Explosions you will feel more
People whine because you have a debatably more expensive rig than them and enjoying the game more than them.

Neutral
You get no more drops than anyone else
you die just the same to stuns


What is the big deal seriously? Do they plan to implement PVP arenas or something?

PS I really wish the entire gaming industry would make an advance in monitors so the north / south limitations go away in aRPG. Would be cool to have bigger monitors up/down :) But hey then that wouldnt be supported by GGG either.

As has been said.

The only real reason this is happening, is because their target demograph. The people that get REALLY invested in the 'competitive element' of an economy. Don't like when someone has an advantage in it.


Literally everyone else. This is a change that worsens the game for them. Punish the 99%, because 1% abused it.

This is unfortunately, an incredibly common line of thought within society. It's self-centered, and short-sighted.

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Akedomo#3573 wrote:

As has been said.

The only real reason this is happening, is because their target demograph. The people that get REALLY invested in the 'competitive element' of an economy. Don't like when someone has an advantage in it.


Literally everyone else. This is a change that worsens the game for them. Punish the 99%, because 1% abused it.

This is unfortunately, an incredibly common line of thought within society. It's self-centered, and short-sighted.

It's "self-centered" when GGG does not allow something that only some ppl want to use but causes issues.

But it's not "self-centered" when the 32:9 crowd wants to use something, even when it's causing issues, because they only care about their own outcome.

The more I know.

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

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Akedomo#3573 wrote:

As has been said.

The only real reason this is happening, is because their target demograph. The people that get REALLY invested in the 'competitive element' of an economy. Don't like when someone has an advantage in it.


Literally everyone else. This is a change that worsens the game for them. Punish the 99%, because 1% abused it.

This is unfortunately, an incredibly common line of thought within society. It's self-centered, and short-sighted.

It's "self-centered" when GGG does not allow something that only some ppl want to use but causes issues.

But it's not "self-centered" when the 32:9 crowd wants to use something, even when it's causing issues, because they only care about their own outcome.

The more I know.

Yeah.

I'll give you a real world example.

This is like having a few people in your city with sports cars. Just a handful. But you live next to one, and he's modified the exhaust. It's loud, it's obnoxious. And it's ruining your sleep in the mornings because he sits in his driveway for 20 minutes revving his engine before he goes to work.

You would want that gone, dealt with right?

And now. You, and the neighbours near you. Want sports cars banned/illegal, because of how they impact you. Pissed off because of it. You just want it gone.

But 100 other people in your city. They have sports cars too, but they're not loud or obnoxious with them. They spent their hard earned money on it. They only take them out for a drive, no modified exhaust. They don't rev their engines when they drive around. Not really bothering anyone.


But this.. Is a self-centered viewpoint. It does not take into account the 100 other people that never do this stupid annoying, obnoxious stuff. Normal, respectable people.


Yes, it will make your life better if sports cars are banned. But it makes 100 other peoples lives worse.


If you were one of the people with a sports car. Would you want to give it up? Sell it? You spent 140,000$ on it. You don't do anything wrong with it. You just drive it around and you enjoy it.

Why should you have to sell your sports car, just because one person is being a dick with this?

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Akedomo#3573 wrote:

Yeah.

I'll give you a real world example.

This is like having a few people in your city with sports cars. Just a handful. But you live next to one, and he's modified the exhaust. It's loud, it's obnoxious. And it's ruining your sleep in the mornings because he sits in his driveway for 20 minutes revving his engine before he goes to work.

You would want that gone, dealt with right?

But 100 other people in your city. They have sports cars too, but they're not loud or obnoxious with them. They spent their hard earned money on it. They only take them out for a drive, no modified exhaust. They don't rev their engines when they drive around. Not really bothering anyone.

And now. You, and the neighbours near you. Want sports cars banned/illegal, because of how they impact you.


But this.. Is a self-centered viewpoint. It does not take into account the 100 other people that never do this stupid annoying, obnoxious stuff. Normal, respectable people.


Yes, it will make your life better if sports cars are banned. But it makes 100 other peoples lives worse.

The problem is not the sports car itself, it's the exhaust.
That's why exhausts above a certain volume are banned, no matter if they bother me, you, or anyone else. So banning the entire car type because of an exhaust is bla. You can easily fix the exhaust by using another one, in this case, another aspect ratio.

You know what would've made more sense?

Imagine it's only allowed to drive 50km/h, but you want to drive 100km/h because you bought a race car for the streets of your town.

Do you break the rules and drive 100km/h when only 50 is allowed?
Or do you accept the limit?
Do you argue: "Nyo, I AM an incredible good driver, it's ok when I drive that fast. Don't punish ME when the drivers who cause accidents driving 100 are the actual problem!"?
Do you have to sell your car now, or do you just use it with the limitation when driving on public streets?
Nobody is asking you to sell your car. Nobody says you are not allowed to use the public streets with your car. The only thing is - accept the limit.

Rules are made for everyone, no matter if you would break them or not, because nobody can know beforehand if you would break them or not.

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

The problem is not the sports car itself, it's the exhaust.

Yup! It's not the car. It's the modified exhaust, and the way he's using the vehicle. Like a dick. He's drag racing down the roads in residential area's at 4am. He's revving his engine at stop lights. He's just being an ass.

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

That's why exhausts above a certain volume are banned, no matter if they bother me, you, or anyone else. So banning the entire car type because of an exhaust is bla. You can easily fix the exhaust by using another one, in this case, another aspect ratio.

Exactly. Why would you ban sports cars when you can just issue fines to people being assholes, driving around with modified exhausts?

That's an over-reaction. It's stupid. It hurts/harms a bunch of people because this asshole put a huge muffler on his vehicle and now speeds down the roads at 4am.

Right?


Like you said. There are better ways of solving the problem. You can outlaw modified exhausts, You can fine him for being a nuisance.


Do you agree with this?

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

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Akedomo#3573 wrote:

Yeah.

I'll give you a real world example.

This is like having a few people in your city with sports cars. Just a handful. But you live next to one, and he's modified the exhaust. It's loud, it's obnoxious. And it's ruining your sleep in the mornings because he sits in his driveway for 20 minutes revving his engine before he goes to work.

You would want that gone, dealt with right?

But 100 other people in your city. They have sports cars too, but they're not loud or obnoxious with them. They spent their hard earned money on it. They only take them out for a drive, no modified exhaust. They don't rev their engines when they drive around. Not really bothering anyone.

And now. You, and the neighbours near you. Want sports cars banned/illegal, because of how they impact you.


But this.. Is a self-centered viewpoint. It does not take into account the 100 other people that never do this stupid annoying, obnoxious stuff. Normal, respectable people.


Yes, it will make your life better if sports cars are banned. But it makes 100 other peoples lives worse.

The problem is not the sports car itself, it's the exhaust.
That's why exhausts above a certain volume are banned, no matter if they bother me, you, or anyone else. So banning the entire car type because of an exhaust is bla. You can easily fix the exhaust by using another one, in this case, another aspect ratio.

You know what would've made more sense?

Imagine it's only allowed to drive 50km/h, but you want to drive 100km/h because you bought a race car for the streets of your town.

Do you break the rules and drive 100km/h when only 50 is allowed?
Or do you accept the limit?
Do you argue: "Nyo, I AM an incredible good driver, it's ok when I drive that fast. Don't punish ME when the drivers who cause accidents driving 100 are the actual problem!"?
Do you have to sell your car now, or do you just use it with the limitation when driving on public streets?
Nobody is asking you to sell your car. Nobody says you are not allowed to use the public streets with your car. The only thing is - accept the limit.

Rules are made for everyone, no matter if you would break them or not, because nobody can know beforehand if you would break them or not.

His example. He's not pointing to the exhaust as the problem(the widescreen mod). Or the car(the widescreen monitors). He's pointing to the person that uses the car.

It's the person. The one that decided to use his car(Widescreen monitor), and then use it to annoy others(by damaging the economy).

There are other owners of cars(widescreen monitors) that don't use their cars to annoy others. And they just act normally with them.


As you said. You don't ban the cars. You just find a way to punish the wrongdoer instead(the one ruining the economy). Even if you don't like the way that person is acting. You don't get to take away someone else's vehicle(monitor).


A slightly better comparison would be governors. Used on vehicles to limit their speed.

If youspent 8 years saving and bought a 200k sports car and you wanted to take it to the track to race. (Enjoy your purchase fully, like using the whole widescreen monitor without changing aspects ratios).

But then someone came and told you we are putting governors on your cars because one person was caught going down the highway at 220 mph and endangering others. (Ruining the economy)

You would now be upset because now you can't fully utilize your car. You really liked going to the tracks, and now your 200k super car is limited to 80mph. It's now not as fun as it was before. Someone else has ruined it for you.


Putting governors on all the cars(the bans for widescreen 32:9 and limiting it to lower aspect ratios) because one person was caught speeding and endangering others.(Ruining the economy). An overreaction, punishing others because of a few.

You would be upset. Bought this big fancy car so you could zoom around a racetrack having fun(playing games at 32:9). And now it's pathetically slow. (Forced to play at 21:9)