GGG, you need to fix Alva npc flipping NOW!

I think the issue is that ppl can't see both ways the ratio in the same window. You must press Alt to see it and not many know I suppose.

When you want to sell your regals you just see what alva shows up (1:1000) then you think thats a normal price now, so you go ahead with it, not knowing on the other end the ratio is 50:1 unless you press Alt.

yeah some ppl don't understand or try to defend this ncp flaw:)

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PaintMaster#2396 wrote:

Do you understand that currency exchange work same as stock trading? Since it work exactly like stock trading, there's nothing to fix within that system.

While it can be "fixed" if people learn how it works without blindly click place order without checking buy/sell orders.

But they don't, so other people abuse laziness or stupidity of those people, to print currency in hideout.

Stock trading works when there’s a balanced system of supply and demand, not when an NPC hands out infinite arbitrage opportunities with no restrictions. The problem isn’t just ‘people being lazy’, it’s that the system itself allows risk-free, unlimited profit with zero actual gameplay.

Right now, players can sit in their hideout, flip currency infinitely, and generate wealth far faster than anyone actually farming. That’s not ‘trading,’ that’s an exploit. And it’s exactly why Divine Orbs are over 500 Exalts now.

If the system were working as intended, the entire economy wouldn’t be suffering from runaway inflation. There’s definitely something to fix here.

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loopax55#5378 wrote:

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PaintMaster#2396 wrote:

Do you understand that currency exchange work same as stock trading? Since it work exactly like stock trading, there's nothing to fix within that system.

While it can be "fixed" if people learn how it works without blindly click place order without checking buy/sell orders.

But they don't, so other people abuse laziness or stupidity of those people, to print currency in hideout.

Stock trading works when there’s a balanced system of supply and demand, not when an NPC hands out infinite arbitrage opportunities with no restrictions. The problem isn’t just ‘people being lazy’, it’s that the system itself allows risk-free, unlimited profit with zero actual gameplay.

Right now, players can sit in their hideout, flip currency infinitely, and generate wealth far faster than anyone actually farming. That’s not ‘trading,’ that’s an exploit. And it’s exactly why Divine Orbs are over 500 Exalts now.

If the system were working as intended, the entire economy wouldn’t be suffering from runaway inflation. There’s definitely something to fix here.

What you didn't seem to understand from both of our posts is: these "infinite money glitches" you're talking about probably don't exist.
If Alva is working correctly, there's someone putting these crazy exchange rates. So they have the Regals to keep the "glitch" going.

That's also why in some stock operations, the people involved are not allowed to "dump" their whole assets and they have to do it in smaller steps: to prevent flooding the market and swaying prices artificially.

The only thing I see being incorrectly done regarding Alva is that those 900:1 Regal:Exalted orders should have been automatically fulfilled by the 20:1 ones, and the person selling the Regals should've gotten way more Exalts than they were asking for.

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loopax55#5378 wrote:

I think the issue is that ppl can't see both ways the ratio in the same window. You must press Alt to see it and not many know I suppose.

When you want to sell your regals you just see what alva shows up (1:1000) then you think thats a normal price now, so you go ahead with it, not knowing on the other end the ratio is 50:1 unless you press Alt.

Exactly. It's not problem with exchange. It's problem with people being lazy or not knowing how stock trading works, or simply not knowing that pressing alt show buy orders.

And it's fine, GGG give opportunity for people that use some brain to profit off people that simply not pressing Alt, or don't know how stock trading works.

What is crazy, is that someone actually fine with selling 1000 regals for single exalt.

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PaintMaster#2396 wrote:

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loopax55#5378 wrote:

I think the issue is that ppl can't see both ways the ratio in the same window. You must press Alt to see it and not many know I suppose.

When you want to sell your regals you just see what alva shows up (1:1000) then you think thats a normal price now, so you go ahead with it, not knowing on the other end the ratio is 50:1 unless you press Alt.

Exactly. It's not problem with exchange. It's problem with people being lazy or not knowing how stock trading works, or simply not knowing that pressing alt show buy orders.

And it's fine, GGG give opportunity for people that use some brain to profit off people that simply not pressing Alt, or don't know how stock trading works.

What is crazy, is that someone actually fine with selling 1000 regals for single exalt.

So you’re saying it’s ‘fine’ that the system is designed in a way that relies on people not having all the necessary information upfront? That’s not ‘stock trading,’ that’s just poor UI design being exploited.

A fair system wouldn’t require an obscure key press to reveal critical information about the trade. The fact that so many players are unknowingly feeding this cycle isn’t proof that they’re ‘lazy’—it’s proof that the system is flawed. And when that flaw is causing massive inflation and destabilizing the economy, it’s absolutely something that needs to be fixed.

Exploiting a bad UI decision to generate infinite wealth isn’t ‘using your brain,’ it’s just taking advantage of bad game design.

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loopax55#5378 wrote:

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PaintMaster#2396 wrote:

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loopax55#5378 wrote:

I think the issue is that ppl can't see both ways the ratio in the same window. You must press Alt to see it and not many know I suppose.

When you want to sell your regals you just see what alva shows up (1:1000) then you think thats a normal price now, so you go ahead with it, not knowing on the other end the ratio is 50:1 unless you press Alt.

Exactly. It's not problem with exchange. It's problem with people being lazy or not knowing how stock trading works, or simply not knowing that pressing alt show buy orders.

And it's fine, GGG give opportunity for people that use some brain to profit off people that simply not pressing Alt, or don't know how stock trading works.

What is crazy, is that someone actually fine with selling 1000 regals for single exalt.

So you’re saying it’s ‘fine’ that the system is designed in a way that relies on people not having all the necessary information upfront? That’s not ‘stock trading,’ that’s just poor UI design being exploited.

A fair system wouldn’t require an obscure key press to reveal critical information about the trade. The fact that so many players are unknowingly feeding this cycle isn’t proof that they’re ‘lazy’—it’s proof that the system is flawed. And when that flaw is causing massive inflation and destabilizing the economy, it’s absolutely something that needs to be fixed.

Exploiting a bad UI decision to generate infinite wealth isn’t ‘using your brain,’ it’s just taking advantage of bad game design.

Exploiting system is using brain.

Inflation in PoE is not caused by people not pressing alt within Currency Exchange window.

Inflation in PoE cause by specific types of currency being useless or having little use. If regals are cheap, this means noone really pickup magic items to regal them, especially in trade league and this late.

Exalts are cheap for same reason, very few people pickup rare gear to slam it with exalts. But exalts used to add mods to waystones so it always has some use, but not much.

Huge difference between buy and sell orders cause by people being lazy, or not pressing alt.

Inflation caused by people not using specific types of currency.

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PaintMaster#2396 wrote:

Exploiting system is using brain.

Inflation in PoE is not caused by people not pressing alt within Currency Exchange window.

Inflation in PoE cause by specific types of currency being useless or having little use. If regals are cheap, this means noone really pickup magic items to regal them, especially in trade league and this late.

Exalts are cheap for same reason, very few people pickup rare gear to slam it with exalts. But exalts used to add mods to waystones so it always has some use, but not much.

Huge difference between buy and sell orders cause by people being lazy, or not pressing alt.

Inflation caused by people not using specific types of currency.

Using brain = playing efficiently within intended game mechanics. Abusing a flawed system to print currency out of thin air = exploiting. Big difference.

The inflation we’re seeing isn’t just because some currencies have less use—it’s because Alva’s exchange allows unlimited, risk-free arbitrage. The fact that Exalts and Regals have different use cases doesn’t justify an NPC letting players generate infinite wealth by simply flipping them back and forth.

If this were just a natural supply-and-demand issue, we wouldn’t be seeing Divine Orbs at 500+ Exalts. The sheer volume of Exalts being pumped into the economy from this exploit is driving up Divine prices because they’re one of the few stable currencies left.

The reality is, a system that lets players generate wealth without engaging in actual gameplay is broken. And pretending that’s just ‘smart trading’ is missing the bigger picture

Thank you Alva for giving me 147 exalts without playing at all (just sitting at Alva) since I started this post 1hr ago or so?.. LOL. Is this the POE you want? jeeez...

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loopax55#5378 wrote:

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If this were just a natural supply-and-demand issue, we wouldn’t be seeing Divine Orbs at 500+ Exalts. The sheer volume of Exalts being pumped into the economy from this exploit is driving up Divine prices because they’re one of the few stable currencies left.

The reality is, a system that lets players generate wealth without engaging in actual gameplay is broken. And pretending that’s just ‘smart trading’ is missing the bigger picture

Currency exchange does not generate wealth or "pumping into economy", it redistributes collective wealth of whole playerbase (maybe parts of playerbase, idk how GGG implemented it for big loads).

Someone doesn't need their regals and throws them away, you pick them up and convert to ex. That's all.