Dude, fucking WHAT?

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Nubatron#4333 wrote:
I know it's a joke, but people beat Maven without succeeding with the memory game :)


*Ahem*, I meant deathless. I can beat her with a few portals, yes, though that feels like cheating. My character technically could tank it if I were to rebuild it a little to obtain Spell Suppression.


Which Character could? Mavens Memory Game damage can´t be suppressed. Also in your pob your character has to be able to tank the damage 3 times, since it hits 3 times.
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Nubatron#4333 wrote:
Eventually it becomes second nature and deathless becomes easy after a few tries on non-uber Maven.


Let me just quote myself here, so I don't have to explain it all again:

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The only boss I hate in PoE 1, as in legitimately hate attempting, is Maven. I've killed her only a handful of times and hated it. I physically cannot remember (not an exaggeration*) -snip-

* (Seriously, no joke, I have a memory/brain problem and physically cannot remember sequences higher than 7, and 6 is usually my limit before I start making mistakes.


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-snip- I sometimes draw a blank on what I already used/did/said/whatever (trust me, it's incredibly annoying), so even a simple sequence can throw me off if the chain becomes too long. On the contrary, my long term memory is excellent and I pick up things very quickly. Doctors are at a loss. I've been told it could be early signs of dementia, but that does not explain my excellent long term memory.


This isn't a matter of skill issue, it's a matter outside of my control.
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TayPoE#6379 wrote:
Which Character could? Mavens Memory Game damage can´t be suppressed. Also in your pob your character has to be able to tank the damage 3 times, since it hits 3 times.


Oh, yeah, my bad, I meant Atziri's Empowered Flameblast, actually. You are right about Memory Game, I forgot it should be 3 times when I checked. I played around with the config last night, just remembered wrong.



With 100% Spell Suppression, though reworking it for that would cut my DPS in half.
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TayPoE#6379 wrote:
Which Character could? Mavens Memory Game damage can´t be suppressed. Also in your pob your character has to be able to tank the damage 3 times, since it hits 3 times.


Oh, yeah, my bad, I meant Atziri's Empowered Flameblast, actually. You are right about Memory Game, I forgot it should be 3 times when I checked. I played around with the config last night, just remembered wrong.



With 100% Spell Suppression, though reworking it for that would cut my DPS in half.


Ah I see. Was just curious, since its a hell a lot of damage needed to be tanked lol.
Yo dude welcome to POE you either good enuff to do the content or you are not the prices are inconsequential would you have came to the forum and complained if the Breach stone you bought/saved up for was like 2 chaos? probably not.

Prices are made by players nothing to do with GGG so the "4 div" price you claim the breach stone is worth is set by the player base.

WITH that said, the "timer" is the same for every single player everyone gets the same experience the point of the Breach stone being a high quality is hard content more challenging, not all content is ment to be ran by all characters.

Thats why you can make multiple character each season, i normally have a mapper/MF character, a Bosser, and a Challenger (to get 40/40) IF you think a non high spec character or someone with low skill/knowledge of the game should be able to run all content then you are sadly mistaken.

Welcome to POE my friend =)
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TayPoE#6379 wrote:

Ah I see. Was just curious, since its a hell a lot of damage needed to be tanked lol.


It can be done, but that character isn't built for that. I don't have Fortify and % reduced Damage taken, etc. Can't always have everything. On a Slayer or Jugg, for instance, it could probably be done on a Life build with Petrified Blood, I guess. So far, I've only seen ES builds do it.
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Nubatron#4333 wrote:
Eventually it becomes second nature and deathless becomes easy after a few tries on non-uber Maven.


Let me just quote myself here, so I don't have to explain it all again:

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The only boss I hate in PoE 1, as in legitimately hate attempting, is Maven. I've killed her only a handful of times and hated it. I physically cannot remember (not an exaggeration*) -snip-

* (Seriously, no joke, I have a memory/brain problem and physically cannot remember sequences higher than 7, and 6 is usually my limit before I start making mistakes.


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-snip- I sometimes draw a blank on what I already used/did/said/whatever (trust me, it's incredibly annoying), so even a simple sequence can throw me off if the chain becomes too long. On the contrary, my long term memory is excellent and I pick up things very quickly. Doctors are at a loss. I've been told it could be early signs of dementia, but that does not explain my excellent long term memory.


This isn't a matter of skill issue, it's a matter outside of my control.


Understood. I suspect there are memory methods that reduce the number to remember to less than each individual sector, but I never thought about it.
Thanks for all the fish!
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Nubatron#4333 wrote:
Understood. I suspect there are memory methods that reduce the number to remember to less than each individual sector, but I never thought about it.


Appreciate the sentiment, but I already tried. They frustrate me too much because I'm not getting any better results, so I stopped doing them. Tbh, my biggest concern is actually that, once I reach my 40s or early 50s, I might start to become a liability.

I could try a plea with GGG to change Memory Game to just include her first short one, but I think we can all agree that it'd just be a waste of my time.
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TayPoE#6379 wrote:

Ah I see. Was just curious, since its a hell a lot of damage needed to be tanked lol.


It can be done, but that character isn't built for that. I don't have Fortify and % reduced Damage taken, etc. Can't always have everything. On a Slayer or Jugg, for instance, it could probably be done on a Life build with Petrified Blood, I guess. So far, I've only seen ES builds do it.


Yeah I know it can be done saw it few times even on a Life based build. I think Ben tanked it few times with his Champion SRS but could be wrong on this. Also not sure if it was post Vaal Molten Shell nerf or not.

But you need a lot of defensive investment doe.

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ShadyC#1006 wrote:

I suppose I need to just "embrace the content I CAN do." But that just feels so wrong to me... It's weird for a game to make ALL this content, and INTENTIONALLY design the game so that most builds have to pick & choose which of these content areas they will be able to do.




but you did all the content they designed. they designed breachstones and you were able to access and beat them all. the uber version is not new content they designed, its the same content with the numbers turned up for people who have builds with higher numbers.

its not weird, it makes perfect sense in a game where different builds have different power levels. how powerful your build is isnt up to the devs, its up to you, thats a knowledge factor for the player. they didnt tell you to make the choices you made, thats your responsibility, you are the player.
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