Is this a trading game or an arpg?

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Absxky#9945 wrote:
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I was running till T6 maps completely fine without a single bought gear piece and I don't even play meta builds. If you claim that T1 is impossible without trading then, well, skill issue.


Another +1 to this.

I don't usually like to say skill issue, but it's likely the case here.


You can actually go quite high in Endgame without trading , none of my gear was obtained from trading and i can reliably melee farm T15 right now . Boss with +++ Difficulty take too much time right now though .
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I was running till T6 maps completely fine without a single bought gear piece and I don't even play meta builds. If you claim that T1 is impossible without trading then, well, skill issue.


This. I've killed most of the pinnacle bosses by level 90 without buying a single thing off the trade site. I call bullshit to anyone saying they haven't found a single usable item in 150+ hours.
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Biovital#3172 wrote:
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I was running till T6 maps completely fine without a single bought gear piece and I don't even play meta builds. If you claim that T1 is impossible without trading then, well, skill issue.


This. I've killed most of the pinnacle bosses by level 90 without buying a single thing off the trade site. I call bullshit to anyone saying they haven't found a single usable item in 150+ hours.


For what purpose could I have lied to you?
GGG can check the logs. How do you expect me to progress with this class when not a single spirit armor or minion+ helmet drops while playing with the Witch class?
How can I survive with 30~40% resist? I have never seen a drop that grants 40 resist or at least two resists together... not to mention the ring and necklace accessories. I've seen maybe 3~5 rare drops so far, and those didn't have any resists. Most of them are normal or magic.
Anyway, I don't expect you to understand if things went well for you, I just meant that it was a pretty bad experience for me.

Yes, I can make it work around T5, but mostly by dying. The only solution is to build with trade. In the next tiers I have to go through the same cycle again.

Edit: Not all 150 hours are gaming. I probably count about 70 hours of playing. Most of it is time on the trade site with the game open.
Last edited by differentone#3989 on Jan 10, 2025, 1:39:25 PM
POE has always been a trading game this is not a new thing.
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How can I survive with 30~40% resist? I have never seen a drop that grants 40 resist or at least two resists together...



LMAO
This has to be the most blatant lie ever told about endgame or you are just playing with a blindfold ...

Even rare T1 gear you pick from the ground can get several resist mods , most of my fully crafted gear grant close to 100% in resists . For example my current body armor :



84% resists

One of my rings :



90% resists


Last edited by Ashyev#5110 on Jan 10, 2025, 2:00:07 PM
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Biovital#3172 wrote:
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I was running till T6 maps completely fine without a single bought gear piece and I don't even play meta builds. If you claim that T1 is impossible without trading then, well, skill issue.


This. I've killed most of the pinnacle bosses by level 90 without buying a single thing off the trade site. I call bullshit to anyone saying they haven't found a single usable item in 150+ hours.


For what purpose could I have lied to you?
GGG can check the logs. How do you expect me to progress with this class when not a single spirit armor or minion+ helmet drops while playing with the Witch class?
How can I survive with 30~40% resist? I have never seen a drop that grants 40 resist or at least two resists together... not to mention the ring and necklace accessories. I've seen maybe 3~5 rare drops so far, and those didn't have any resists. Most of them are normal or magic.
Anyway, I don't expect you to understand if things went well for you, I just meant that it was a pretty bad experience for me.

Yes, I can make it work around T5, but mostly by dying. The only solution is to build with trade. In the next tiers I have to go through the same cycle again.

Edit: Not all 150 hours are gaming. I probably count about 70 hours of playing. Most of it is time on the trade site with the game open.

My friend, please. With this character I manage to do T6s. Not quickly, but relatively safely.

You are overthinking it if you spend half the time on trading site.
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I was running till T6 maps completely fine without a single bought gear piece and I don't even play meta builds. If you claim that T1 is impossible without trading then, well, skill issue.


Must be nice to be lucky but don't go thinking you're skilled.

You're just lucky, appreciate it.
If Elon Musk is unable to recognize a good item when he sees one, there is a strong possibility others can't either. It really can be considered a skill issue. Not saying it's what OP is having issue with.
Last edited by mikeab79#3627 on Jan 10, 2025, 3:03:52 PM
Path of Exile is heavily inspired by Diablo 2.

Diablo 2 is a heavy trading game.

There's your answer.
I genuinely think better guides on how to craft, and farm good base items is crucial here. Regardless trade system does need an eventual upgrade, it feels too much like a facebook group marketplace or something lol and isnt the best experience. Huge imbalance right now on cost for items too.

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