Exp loss on death topics are getting out of hand.

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Battousai21#8595 wrote:

Why not give players a chance to feel accomplished when reaching 100

You have all the opportunities to reach level 100. You can do it if you really want to. The problem is to think it's mandatory or a baseline. It's not.

Everygame is played by its own rules. Some games ask you to reach max level to start playing the game. Some games keep max level hard to get as a golden carrot, but never ask you to reach it to enjoy all available content. It's like that.

i got pretty good build, but i die in 1-2 hit from boss attacks while while i gain like 1% exp per whole map run, i run archer with evasion, im at lvl 89 right now, i can tell u honestly that is a miserable experience to lose exp like this, and i dont feel like playing only meta builds so why should i suffer?

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azaxy970#4511 wrote:

i got pretty good build, but i die in 1-2 hit from boss attacks while while i gain like 1% exp per whole map run, i run archer with evasion, im at lvl 89 right now, i can tell u honestly that is a miserable experience to lose exp like this, and i dont feel like playing only meta builds so why should i suffer?

I don't ever play meta build.

But there is one thing I know for sure :
If you decide to play a weak-ass class like an archer and having for only defense : high damage + range + hit&run + a PERCENTAGE of chance of evading an attack, yeah, you'll eventually get hit once and die.

That's completely normal, you can't blame the game there. It's balanced.

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outlander19900#0213 wrote:

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

I don't care what you say, none of these death penalties are defendable in any way. They're bad. Absolutely trash game design that should have died 20 years ago. Let's see how long GGG can triple-down on their "Vision" before the game dies.

They are bad in your opinion. Sadly, the world nor the game doesn't revolve around you. Please do not ever generalize an opinion without some concrete proof.

Well everything revolves around the majority which I'm sure is unfortunate for you. Plays dont want it then it should definitely be changed to suit us. Give the players what they want or they go elsewhere its incredibly simple and logical

It's almost like people that actually like the game don't even try and convince people like you. :D

Tone isn't conveyed well over text, so I want you to know that this is heartfelt.

Time and choices; that's all we have.

The battle for the "soul" of this game is a lot like what happened in D4. Veteran ARPG players wanted a solo experience. Blizzard wanted to try to make an MMOARPG, like Lost Ark, because WOW was in decline.

Some people want a more accessible game that respects their time; by this I mean that even if you're stopped at certain points due to build, skill, etc. you're not pushed back. That's why I used the example of coming home from a long day's work shift -it would feel fine, to most, to be "stumped" at a certain progression point... and it would feel intolerable, to most, to lose that progression and have to re-do/re-grind lost work.

And you're right: the latter is "fun" for many. And that's okay too.

What you said it true. Happiness and fun are different things to different people. I think that's why there's so much passion in this discussion: fundamentally, people did like this game... they want it to succeed -but that's subjective too. Mainstream success makes elitists feel like it's "dumbed-down"; longitme WOW player here... it's the sentiment. But catering to the top 1% of players, which I'm sad to admit, in my younger years, I was because I had no real life or relationships... cost WOW dearly. Niche success will likely anger Tencent who have lost lots of money on the Arcane shows as a failed pipeline to LoL; i.e. people get hyped by Arcane and then quit after a week of LoL's toxicity.

Ultimately, that's why the devs are silent: they could have a game-of-the-decade... but their pride won't let them. Do they listen to the streamers and the no-lifers? Do they listen to the "filthy casuals" who have real jobs and lives who have since left? All we can really do is say our piece and move on. It's really up to GGG to determine the direction of this game at this point.

I wish you the best. Thanks for engaging in good faith and I hope you have a great 2025!

funny, this guy probably havent ever played poe1 endgame
saying poe1 is more 1shot then poe2 is kind of a meme
in poe1 you can gear against 1shots with armour(which is useless here) etc/not every mob has 12 on death effects, but yeah nice try buddy

I can understand that there will be exp lose in death i play other game's with this mechanic i am familiar to that so i dont have major issues with this , the problem come's with the millions 1shot mechanics that the game has and my expiriance from one point and after was only hit and run nothing else so ok i can do that i mean if this is the game ok BUT have all those 1shot mechanic's that you need to avoid like crazy AND also having monsters on steroids from suffixis make's the experiance random you cant control if you die or not you wish to not miss step somewhere and then it comes the 10% exp lose i grind in 93 hours to get a 40% and i literally die 4 times in a row after days without death and lose hours of progress . The game its hard ennough at least make it 5% so its not that punnishing not to metion that you will lose the waystone and the map with 1 attempt those things and the complitly random crafting system makes the game feels like a totally random experiance for a new player and not a veteran from poe 1 i have 260 hours game play i know i have room to grow and be better but the game make's me feel i am not progressing at all

93 lvl

What a borderline clinically insane proposition to seriously tell other players to stop sharing their feedback because you simply disagree with it. In an Early Access game's forum that even has the name "feedback" in it, out of all places.

Reading some people's takes really helps to understand why democracies and pluralism are under constant attack, with some folks loving nothing more than sucking up to any authority.

I mean, does causing a seperation in difficulties have knock on effects I'm unaware of? Have a difficulty with no xp penalty and one with. Bang, problem solved. Next?