One-portal is a great system that just needs refinement

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Ankh_13#4218 wrote:

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HolgerDanske891#8767 wrote:

The BEST solution to this problem, is different game modes Easy, normal, hard, god gamer and impossible and EVERYBODY wins even old farts like me who enjoys killing stuff, trying different builds and progressing my char by getting loot..

You can't have difficulty modes in a single MMO economy. That would mean either:
- Separating leagues by difficulty, which they won't do because a) they don't want to fragment their playerbase further and b) combinatorial explosion of number of sub-leagues per league. (There's already 8, now multiply that by number of difficulty levels.)
- Or you play easy mode but fully SSF, essentially no interaction with other players, which a) makes the game (balanced around trading) harder, defeating the point and b) they won't do it because an online economy is one of the pillars of PoE (they're not making a single player game).

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HolgerDanske891#8767 wrote:

I can almost guess your response.. Go play D4, right?

This might be the case, proverbially, of course. What's wrong about a game not being appropriate for everyone? I appreciate your love for PoE, but it might simply not be the best pick for you.

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sephrinx#7591 wrote:

Yeah, it just needs to be refined to where if you die, you still have the 5 remaining portals.

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Ankh_13#4218 wrote:

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HolgerDanske891#8767 wrote:

The BEST solution to this problem, is different game modes Easy, normal, hard, god gamer and impossible and EVERYBODY wins even old farts like me who enjoys killing stuff, trying different builds and progressing my char by getting loot..

You can't have difficulty modes in a single MMO economy. That would mean either:
- Separating leagues by difficulty, which they won't do because a) they don't want to fragment their playerbase further and b) combinatorial explosion of number of sub-leagues per league. (There's already 8, now multiply that by number of difficulty levels.)
- Or you play easy mode but fully SSF, essentially no interaction with other players, which a) makes the game (balanced around trading) harder, defeating the point and b) they won't do it because an online economy is one of the pillars of PoE (they're not making a single player game).

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HolgerDanske891#8767 wrote:

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Ankh_13#4218 wrote:

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HolgerDanske891#8767 wrote:

The BEST solution to this problem, is different game modes Easy, normal, hard, god gamer and impossible and EVERYBODY wins even old farts like me who enjoys killing stuff, trying different builds and progressing my char by getting loot..

You can't have difficulty modes in a single MMO economy. That would mean either:
- Separating leagues by difficulty, which they won't do because a) they don't want to fragment their playerbase further and b) combinatorial explosion of number of sub-leagues per league. (There's already 8, now multiply that by number of difficulty levels.)
- Or you play easy mode but fully SSF, essentially no interaction with other players, which a) makes the game (balanced around trading) harder, defeating the point and b) they won't do it because an online economy is one of the pillars of PoE (they're not making a single player game).

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HolgerDanske891#8767 wrote:

I can almost guess your response.. Go play D4, right?

This might be the case, proverbially, of course. What's wrong about a game not being appropriate for everyone? I appreciate your love for PoE, but it might simply not be the best pick for you.

You seem to forget that GGG themselves has publicly, more than once, stated this game would be more accessible to more players aa well as have more crafting materials, both statements that are blatantly false as the game stands..

Having more difficulties with a single economy isn't that hard to achieve, easier modes don't get as many drops for example, or have other limitations. I am not a software developer, but it ain't hard... But this was just a suggestion as the playerbase seems quite split at the moment..

But this is not what i mean, the game isn't hard past a1 and 2, it's broken..
The on death effects+random one shot mechanics+1 portal=excessively punitive and the exact opposite of fun.. Add to that you can't learn boss mechanics with 1 portal, so more time needs be wasted farming waystones and shit, it's just not a fun and rewarding game play loop..

This is a beta version of the game, and i expect a lot of changes before 1.0 rolls out, but i stopped playing after trying a couple of waystones as i found it just not worth my time..

I just hope PoE2 doesn't result in Poe1 getting gutted, which it looks like at present, only time will tell..

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Maldosam#3663 wrote:

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Ankh_13#4218 wrote:

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HolgerDanske891#8767 wrote:

The BEST solution to this problem, is different game modes Easy, normal, hard, god gamer and impossible and EVERYBODY wins even old farts like me who enjoys killing stuff, trying different builds and progressing my char by getting loot..

You can't have difficulty modes in a single MMO economy. That would mean either:
- Separating leagues by difficulty, which they won't do because a) they don't want to fragment their playerbase further and b) combinatorial explosion of number of sub-leagues per league. (There's already 8, now multiply that by number of difficulty levels.)
- Or you play easy mode but fully SSF, essentially no interaction with other players, which a) makes the game (balanced around trading) harder, defeating the point and b) they won't do it because an online economy is one of the pillars of PoE (they're not making a single player game).

Wrong. There are multiple economies in poe1 each league: STD, HC and Ruthless. I don't know how you count 8 economies but whatever

But there's a point there, I agree it's better not to divide the playerbase if possible. I think a solution could be to turn the number of portals into another juicing mechanic. Say we start with six, but you can turn them off in a number of increments (may be one by one is too many options), and you get:
1) bonus quant/rarity/XP, obviously
2) access to drops, may be even mechanics (tokens to pinacle content for example), locked behind the lesser portals options.

With 6 portals, you could still do some mindless farming, not very rewarding, but just enough to generate some currency to trade or craft and still improve your build some, and when ready (or when you feel like it) you jump into, or transition too lesser portals. Higher risk, higher reward.

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Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index#1288 wrote:

But that is 8 every league.

Standard/StandardHC/StandardRuthless/StandardALLSSF
League/LeagueHC/LeagueRuthless/LeagueALLSSF