Witch Minions, totally unplayable

So much SRS being mentioned in this thread. Appears to be mandatory to even make a minion build viable. It looks that way anyways. I'm guilty too, I use them. Because every other alternative just sucks major volleyballs.

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Hiwon#1217 wrote:

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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:

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Juggernutde#3713 wrote:

Lol, it's so sad that anyone that says minions are good are just using SRS. Without that one skill, minions are nothing. It's not that the rest of us need to change how we see minions, it's because there is only one viable play styles with minions.

Showcase Minions Only vs Rattlecage: https://youtu.be/akEabifcBfU

Not really sure this is proving anything. A boss who you can just walk circles around that does only a few minor attacks hitting minions in the entire fight isn't exactly an argument that non-SRS minions are working fine.

You can literally see the issue in your own non-showcased Jamanra attempts:
https://youtu.be/YkXNVx4LjVo?t=8871

He wipes your regular minion set over and over, and the only reason you are able to actually put out even reasonable damage is because of SRS. When you have no raging spirits out, your DPS is totally gone. Even with the spirits doing the vast majority of the work it's still a three and a half minute fight.

Yes, and they're back 2 seconds later.
That was my first attempt, I was checking boss attack patterns.

I have improved and optimised the build since then as well, and it's one of the top-performing builds.

vs Jamanra: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0ll-TaXzhU
build guide for anyone interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl5SyQgLtRk

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LibraExAnima#1943 wrote:

So much SRS being mentioned in this thread. Appears to be mandatory to even make a minion build viable. It looks that way anyways. I'm guilty too, I use them. Because every other alternative just sucks major volleyballs.

Arsonists are fantastic.

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xlnt2new#4132 wrote:

Can we have this thread deleted please - it's not a build - just some biased whining

People are mad their spectre-inherent Skeletal Warriors don't one-shot a boss, and then immediately go to Reddit and the Forums complaining about how "minions suck", and even when provided with builds, guides and evidence that minions are in fact very good, they will reject and deny it, because to them, it is not about actually making minions work, but complaining is the whole point.

It's ridiculous.

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IceGraveyard#5341 wrote:

The problem is this is not what was promised, big minion army was on the announcement trailer? And you get 4-5 skeletons. And all I hear is spam gas + fire for the cheese. Really disappointed.

The fact that you wrote that proves that you haven't leveled up your skill gems yet, so you're probably still in act 1.
You will gradually have more and more minions.
You are expecting an army in act 1.

You're being ridiculous.

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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:

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LibraExAnima#1943 wrote:

So much SRS being mentioned in this thread. Appears to be mandatory to even make a minion build viable. It looks that way anyways. I'm guilty too, I use them. Because every other alternative just sucks major volleyballs.

Arsonists are fantastic.

I honestly just kinda have a hard time letting my archers go to be honest. I wanted to do "HoA light" by giving them poison stuff, pierce, later fork... I like that idea. I just wish I wouldn't need SRS to "complement" my build (It's easy 50% or more of my damage at this point). Arsonists I tried for a while, but I felt like I was too busy pressing buttons to activate the explosions instead of dodging. I can't quite wrap my head around that concept physically - occasional gas arrows is fine though. It's a me-problem, probably ^^

To contribute more to the thread; Minion level seems to make a huge difference when I look back at my journey up until now. How well it scales in endgame, we'll see.

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LibraExAnima#1943 wrote:

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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:

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LibraExAnima#1943 wrote:

So much SRS being mentioned in this thread. Appears to be mandatory to even make a minion build viable. It looks that way anyways. I'm guilty too, I use them. Because every other alternative just sucks major volleyballs.

Arsonists are fantastic.

I honestly just kinda have a hard time letting my archers go to be honest. I wanted to do "HoA light" by giving them poison stuff, pierce, later fork... I like that idea. I just wish I wouldn't need SRS to "complement" my build (It's easy 50% or more of my damage at this point). Arsonists I tried for a while, but I felt like I was too busy pressing buttons to activate the explosions instead of dodging. I can't quite wrap my head around that concept physically - occasional gas arrows is fine though. It's a me-problem, probably ^^

Arsonists will handle maps fine on their own.
You don't need to activate their skill.
Just put the right supports on them and relax.

Magnified Effect (more AoE = hit enemies multiple times) + Scattershot (even more AoE) + Martial Tempo (Scattershot reduces our speed; this is to balance that out).
You can take Fire Penetration (lv 2) + Minion Mastery (lv 3) afterwards.

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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:

Arsonists will handle maps fine on their own.
You don't need to activate their skill.
Just put the right supports on them and relax.

Magnified Effect (more AoE = hit enemies multiple times) + Scattershot (even more AoE) + Martial Tempo (Scattershot reduces our speed; this is to balance that out).
You can take Fire Penetration (lv 2) + Minion Mastery (lv 3) afterwards.

Oh I'll try that, I wasn't really sure if Arsonists do AOE outside of the explosions so I saw no reason to use them outside of those ^^

Are we playing the same game...Since I started my witch minions build it has been an absolute breeze in a good way, dont get me wrong i've died a handful of times but my minions completely DESTROY everything almost before I can even target it at this point (level 46?) I think some of you are/were expecting too much too fast..... Minions are disgusting

There is so much whining in this topic. I only play with skeletons and don't even look at SRS. Almost all bosses die from being stunned. That is, after about 10 seconds. Instead of whining, go and make yourself a normal build.