Hard crashing PC locks up

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Laroun#5594 wrote:

I mean it is litle weird that everyone blaming GGG for this than other games has also this sort of problems by some people in the community. I think because it is working by me that it not only GGG / Poe 22 but also the latest updates from windows 10 / windows 11.

"Because i dont have issues its not GGG's fault" is such an uninformed unnecessary statement.

Obviously it is some interaction between GGG's code and OS but its pretty clear that its on GGG to fix it. And considering there are by now more then 500pages accumulated pages of this issue "because it works for me is such a joke". It is clearly NOT working for a whole lot of people.

Also the first big patch significantly worsened the issue for a lot of people so theres that as well.

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zyzyzy_#3560 wrote:

facing this issue especially in Act 3, is there any fix so far? 280+ pages lol

Yes. Process Lasso to exclude PoE with CPU Affinity for 2 cores solves the PC locking up entirely, but the game will still lock up and then need to be force closed in Task Manager.

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xFKratos#3003 wrote:

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Laroun#5594 wrote:

I mean it is litle weird that everyone blaming GGG for this than other games has also this sort of problems by some people in the community. I think because it is working by me that it not only GGG / Poe 22 but also the latest updates from windows 10 / windows 11.

"Because i dont have issues its not GGG's fault" is such an uninformed unnecessary statement.

Obviously it is some interaction between GGG's code and OS but its pretty clear that its on GGG to fix it. And considering there are by now more then 500pages accumulated pages of this issue "because it works for me is such a joke". It is clearly NOT working for a whole lot of people.

Also the first big patch significantly worsened the issue for a lot of people so theres that as well.

It's a known 24H2 bug. There was also a very well-known bug that 24H2 fixed, and that is that in Windows 11, when streaming video on Discord, audio would start to distort around 30 or so minutes into the stream. Discord never fixed this. Windows did, with 24H2. Generally speaking, if a bug is OS-related, the onus is on the OS to fix it.

GGG should, as a temporary patch, have had the game detect whether it was being played on 24H2, and if so, it should have disabled 2 cores so that the game would at worst crash itself rather than the whole CPU. That's the solution I have been using and it works.

EDIT: Anybody who says it is not a 24H2 issue is lowkey sus. Windows ported the 24H2 scheduler back to 23H2. If you have that optional update installed, and you likely do if you are experiencing crashes on 23H2, you're already effectively on 24H2. It's a 24H2 issue. Workarounds are temporary fixes. Reposting the same copypasta over and over again does not solve the problem even temporarily and is unhelpful to players who simply want to play the game.

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Laroun#5594 wrote:

It is weird that i read allot of your reply that everyone has problems with shaders and everything.


I mean it is litle weird that everyone blaming GGG for this than other games has also this sort of problems by some people in the community. I think because it is working by me that it not only GGG / Poe 22 but also the latest updates from windows 10 / windows 11.

You literally have CPU 100% usage spikes in that screenshot on 3k$ PC and you act like thats completely normal.

There are certain people in this thread that love to derail the discussion by deflecting, minimizing the issue, or straight up insulting people.

1)"It is just Early Access"

It does not matter. EA bugs is things like "my skill does not work", "the game shuts down", "x node is not working", "this boss has an iffy hitbox" NOT "Game hard crashes, locking up the PC, requiring manual shutdown, possibly bricking my PC".

2)"It can't brick your PC"

It can. I explained the exact mechanisms enough times with decent clarity to the point anyone that claims otherwise is either a troll, or someone who is obstinate. Anyone that wants to double check can run my explanations through ChatGPT, ask a professor at their local university's ECE departments, or hit the books themselves.

3)"It is just a software issue but people mistake it with bricking"

This one is actually true for some cases. The problem is this game does not come with a warning that it can cause problems that require above average computer literacy. In fact my greatest issue with this problem is exactly this. If they put a simple warning up top on steam and in this forum only people that know what to do would play the game despite crashes. This way GGG could have avoided causing people to incur damages.

4)"Any damage can be fixed"

Those who say this omit the next portion which is "for a price". For some reason these type of derailers think that just because it costs something they can afford, the costs can be afforded by everyone.

Even if there were Samaritans that fixes PCs for free, the loss of time is substantial.

5)"Did you make plans around playing this game? What a loser!"

This one is really a low social intelligence take. People have responsibilities. Some people enjoy living an ordered life. Some people just want to play the game they paid for when they want.

6)"This is a Windows 11 24H2 issue"
These people are 100% trolls. No need to even spare them a glance. We all know it happens to all kind of OS.

7)"They can't fix it fast, I'm a programmer too so I know its really hard for them to fix it"

We are not telling them to fix it. We are telling them to communicate with us.

Putting a warning on steam, putting a warning on here. A post that explains what they have done until now such as "we have eliminated X as a cause, we are now looking at Y to see if that is the one that causes this."

8)"Your PC is bad."

If it is above the required specs, then PoE2 should be able to be played in that PC. Even if the PC is below the requirements, PoE2 should not be taking the whole PC down.

9)"Install these, then perform this Navajo ritual, afterwards pray to Celestial Worthy of Heaven and Earth for His blessings"

Workarounds are not fixes. People who have paid for a game should not be forced to install third party programs, or go through hoops to play said game.

Furthermore, I ask anyone who sees this message to please give a negative review for Path of Exile 2 on Steam.

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Ravedge70#2151 wrote:

Game is going to fry peoples PC. My PC is far above the recommended specs and this freezing and hard locking my PC is just silly. I don't trust the game for now, until they fix it. Leaving 2 of my cores open to save the hard lock is just a putting a band aid on a wound that won't stop bleeding. I have to replay the entire area again.

I understand this is EA but this is something that could cost me a lot of money and time personally and I am not willing to keep "testing" their game which was paid for to play early.

Please take these post seriously GGG......wrecking peoples PC's is something that should have been caught before release of EA.

Bump

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Veuron#6683 wrote:

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they can't hold high CPU loads because they had trashy PSU / motherboard (chinese VRMs), shitty cooling system and things like that.

my man I have noctua nh-d15 on my ryzen 5 3600X CPU. Wukong cant heat that shit up and u are telling me the that shaders in loading screen can force my CPU into 100% and overheat state based on the error of POE crash I checked? Dont be silly

If your CPU which SUPPOSED to work at 100% load CAN NOT work at 100% load and overheating it's definetely something wrong with your setup. It may be related to your fan profile (defined in UEFI setup) and not directly to hardware. Run some stress tests, especially FPU test (for example from AIDA64) and make sure your CPU temp is in limits defined by the manufacturer.

Also PoE 2 crashes not because it overheating the CPU. Just read the topic.

almost 300 pages and not a single answer from GGG staff? My PC already crashed dozen times during loading screen. 7800X3D, 4070 RTX and latest windows 11

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zyzyzy_#3560 wrote:

facing this issue especially in Act 3, is there any fix so far? 280+ pages lol

1. Run https://github.com/Kapps/PoEUncrasher in background, this will convert hard crashes to crash to desktop.
2. Run vulkan instead of DX12 that will reduce number of crashes.

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xBaudx#2449 wrote:

+1 bricked PC. Booted the game to check something for a friend after having some stability for a couple of days and now my PC won't boot back up after crashing, even after clearing CMOS.

During your playtime did you tested those provisory solutions like app PoeUncrasher?