T17 once again are ruining this league can GGG just discard t17 concept?

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MadMossy wrote:

Maybe time to step down off your high horse, your build isn't ok damage/ok tank. It's a 100 divine+ build. That is top 1% of players territory.

My build is maybe half of that and does all T17s fine as long as I avoid certain mods which is ok. Could my build be improved, absolutely, is the improvement worth the time/investment considering the content I do. Maybe. If I get a few lucky drops.

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Mashgesture wrote:

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MadMossy wrote:

Maybe time to step down off your high horse, your build isn't ok damage/ok tank. It's a 100 divine+ build. That is top 1% of players territory.

My build is maybe half of that and does all T17s fine as long as I avoid certain mods which is ok. Could my build be improved, absolutely, is the improvement worth the time/investment considering the content I do. Maybe. If I get a few lucky drops.

Oh jeez so yours is 50+ divines? As if that's any more reasonable?

PFFFFFFFT

Here let me link to you how much a t17 requires now a days and how much of a joke they are, I actually kept all my crap before I started spending anything on this build after I did the challenges.

Spoiler

Reroll chaos harvest juice.

Reroll chaos harvest juice.

Reroll chaos harvest juice.

Found on the ground, failed influence exalt slam.

Rerolled contempt until Phys/acc and Phys x to x. this fracture costs nothing and isnt even the highest. 45% fracture DOT karuis are fking 30c on trade
This stupid thing doesnt even have attack speed, look its got fire res and dex lol.

Dropped for me WHILE I was doing ubers challenge lmfao, not worth anything never was...

Reroll chaos harvest juice

Reroll chaos harvest juice

Reroll defense harvest juice. Prefix cannot be changed and reroll phys harvest to get the % PDR that is 5 lol....

Only $$$ gems are awakened brutality and awakened phys dam. And I used fking rarity instead for more gold, only used brutality for the 250% challenges.


Mob mentality/Warning call 4 slot cluster ~5divs
Battle Hardened/Master the Fundementals/ Furious assault 8 slot cluster ~3-4 divs


So I spent 9 on clusters, and a single pref cannot be changed for the chest. Rest of it was all harvest rerolls that cost nothing. Awakened brut/Melee phys = ~5 divs

So all in all I spent less than around the 15-16 div mark. And got everything done besides the 250% challenges.

For the 250% challenge I just got suppress gear to make them less of a headache. Cheap t2 boots/helm/gloves that I just rerolled harvest chaos and defense on. And the 3 slot cluster as well....

You can also look at the dumb shit gear I have on right now, and I blast them just fine. Bout the only expensive thing that I have on is the belt, and has nothing to do with offense and has a stupid jewel that I ran out of harvest juice and CBF to craft any further.

And no I did not have the watchers double pride jewel or any of these jewels for this. Bought them as a splurg after.

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MadMossy wrote:

Missing the point entirely.

You have 39 challenges, the other guy has 40 challenges, the league has been out for a little over 3 weeks so you obviously play A LOT.

If you consider for a second the progression path of the game and how it is presented to people. The step from crushing T16s to hitting a brick wall in T17 without spending an obscene amount of currency rerolling them or using nullify scarabs is insane.

The gap in wealth acquisition from T16s to T17s is equally as obscene.

There's a reason GGG are taking so much feedback and effort into ensuring PoE2 is going to be accessible for more people. When "normal" players hit these barriers they just quit playing, and they make up a significant number of the player base.

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MadMossy wrote:

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Coconutdoggy wrote:

wtf are u talking about I'm ok damage and I'm ok tank and I do just fine LOL it's a YOU issue.

You REFUSE to learn or make your build better that's it there's nothing else or that one guys issue is that nothingf you do matters you just die.

Maybe time to step down off your high horse, your build isn't ok damage/ok tank. It's a 100 divine+ build. That is top 1% of players territory.

My build is maybe half of that and does all T17s fine as long as I avoid certain mods which is ok. Could my build be improved, absolutely, is the improvement worth the time/investment considering the content I do. Maybe. If I get a few lucky drops.

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Coconutdoggy wrote:

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MadMossy wrote:

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Coconutdoggy wrote:

wtf are u talking about I'm ok damage and I'm ok tank and I do just fine LOL it's a YOU issue.

You REFUSE to learn or make your build better that's it there's nothing else or that one guys issue is that nothingf you do matters you just die.

Maybe time to step down off your high horse, your build isn't ok damage/ok tank. It's a 100 divine+ build. That is top 1% of players territory.

My build is maybe half of that and does all T17s fine as long as I avoid certain mods which is ok. Could my build be improved, absolutely, is the improvement worth the time/investment considering the content I do. Maybe. If I get a few lucky drops.

LOL my build is NOT 100 DIVINES HAHA

This fucking build of mine can be done with 5 divines and it will shit on t17s not even a contest do you know why?

IT'S A PROPER BUILD.

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Coconutdoggy wrote:

LOL my build is NOT 100 DIVINES HAHA

This fucking build of mine can be done with 5 divines and it will shit on t17s not even a contest do you know why?

IT'S A PROPER BUILD.

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Mashgesture wrote:

I have a single character this league, you have 7 chracters this league. 6 of them 90+.

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MadMossy wrote:

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Coconutdoggy wrote:

LOL my build is NOT 100 DIVINES HAHA

This fucking build of mine can be done with 5 divines and it will shit on t17s not even a contest do you know why?

IT'S A PROPER BUILD.

Your axe alone is 70 divine+

Simple fact of the matter is T17s suck, they are too annoying for many people and far too much "loot" has been gated around them and the content they enable access too.

The only high value items in my current build (the trickster) is my ephemeral edge with resolute technique, the rest of my items are <5d each.


As for the my play time, I do play a fair amount sure, but it's more than possible to reach 90+ on a char in 1 play session from level 1 if your efficient and use the available tools to do so.