maven remains the worst thing in the game

your standard character with billions of dps only PROVES my point. you didnt survive her memory phase 3x in a row. you circumvented it by nuking the shit out of her before dealing with the mechanic. which, again, only proves how shit it is.

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doing enough dps to bypass mechanics is not in any which way, shape, or form showing those mechanics to be good.

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Stormy_Fairweather wrote:

your standard character with billions of dps only PROVES my point. you didnt survive her memory phase 3x in a row. you circumvented it by nuking the shit out of her before dealing with the mechanic. which, again, only proves how shit it is.

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doing enough dps to bypass mechanics is not in any which way, shape, or form showing those mechanics to be good.

You are basically self snitching that it IS a character issue here. You dont have enough damage apparently.

My TR champ does not even have 1 Bil damage, nor does it even have 100m nor does it even have 50m. Im guessing you have no idea how much damage it actually does.

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Best of luck with your issues. Its not the game clearly.

i offered you a simple way to back up your position. survive the attack in question three times in a row. that's it. that's all.

you hopped to standard and use an over geared character to literally bypass the mechanic you claim is 'chefs kiss'. then presented stills of the after effects of you skipping it totally as evidence you 'survived' it.

you proved my point entirely on every possible level.

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Pizzarugi wrote:

I still stand by my opinion that, when compared to Sirus, Maven is a huge step up in boss mechanics.

That being said, her memory phase is still absolutely the worst feature about her. I have ADHD, my ability to memorize things like this can be difficult at the best of times.

i actually HATE maven ONLY because of her memory game. as you say, everything else is actually fine. even her end phase spinning beams. they only become a hassle when it comes to memory game time. memorizing is hard enough, avoiding the beams at the same time is "impossible". 

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Pizzarugi wrote:

See, it's the opposite for me with Sirus. He spams you with so many hazards, everything's in the same color, and he has an awful tendency of blinking off screen and immediately following up with his "Die" barrage.

Meanwhile, all of Maven's abilities are heavily telegraphed and easily dodged. The arena hazards she creates can easily be mitigated by piling the homing bombs to the edge of the arena or the center.

The only thing I hate about Maven is her memory puzzle, for reasons I had said in my earlier post.

i've suggested an easy fix for the 2 issues countless of times but GGG doesnt want to spend anymore time fixing sirus.

sirus blinking should be via flame dash. having him leave a trail of flame gives you a hint at where he teleported to while making it a semi offensive ability.

as for die beams, there should be some criteria set for when he can cast em.
1. hasnt teleported recently
2. if player is not within a certain distance he should never cast it

my deaths fighting regular sirus is normally
death 1: me being cocky, dies
death 2-3-4: offscreen die beams while trying to reach him again

i agree with you on the sirus die beams following his teleport being some bullshit. i also agree leaving a flame trail would make it a lot more fun, thats a great idea that really shoulda been in the original design. dodging into the beam rather than perpendicular because you have no idea where it is coming from feels cheap every damn time.

that said, the reason it doesnt instill the same blinding rage in me as maven is because you can tank it. if you dont know which way it is coming you could pop a molten shell or immortal call and combined with solid defenses you will survive it.

surviving maven's bullshit comes down to luck. that was why i challenged buddy boy to survive it three times in a row. doing so would indicate SOME level of control over it. having an ultra wide monitor would also help since you could position yourself at one edge or the other and actually see enough of the arena to know where to go. if you can note it while also dodging those beams. but then you are paying for a chance to win, and not all of us can afford, or even want, ultra wide monitors. the fight would be fun without it, as you said it is the only real flaw with the design.

Surviving memory phase doesnt involve any luck. Remembering 6 digits also dont involve any luck. Doing final memory phase is not a problem. It is a matter of paying attention. Not every boss need to be killable by everyone, that would be a bad design. If you cant kill it, its ok, just do something else.

well then you can post a video of you surviving it three times in a row.

go to my profile->challenges->ancestor->Predicated Pinnacle Powers
The Maven without being affected by Maven's Punishment and after successfully completing 3 final phase Memory Games


I already did that without even touching beams. It is easy.

if it is so easy then you can make a video.

If you want my time to coach you and record a tutorial for you, that got a price tag of 150divs. If you just want proof it is in my challenges I mentioned.