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maven remains the worst thing in the game
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that memory bullshit is the worst thing EVER added to the game. there is nothing else that even APPROACHES the level of stupid in that one mechanic. i can get to the last phase fighting her without death, but i have NEVER once survived that memory in the final phase. you cant see where you are supposed to go because you cant stand near the middle, if you guess wrong even once it speeds up so much that even if you DID know where to go you cant make it in time. and you have to guess cause you cant zoom out to even see where the fuck you are supposed to go. i remember people bitching about sirus's storms, and ye, they suck. but you can take your time and work around them. the accumulating degen of uber elder can be managed with some foresight. avoiding the one shots of cortex can be done paying attention.
but maven's final phase memory bullshit? what [Removed by Support] thought playing simon says without being able to see half the gamepad and playing dodgeball on steroids at the same time would be fun? which is the point of games, despite ggg seeming to forget that. the fight would be fine without it. it would still be challenging, it would still serve as a wall to low gear or skill players... but functionally unavoidable deaths every 30s or so while scrambling desperately under the illusion you can do something about it is simply miserable. every single time i deal with the [Removed by Support] to get my voidstone i seriously consider uninstalling. Last edited by ShaunB_GGG#0000 on Dec 21, 2023, 11:25:13 PM Last bumped on Dec 22, 2023, 7:29:00 AM
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I still stand by my opinion that, when compared to Sirus, Maven is a huge step up in boss mechanics.
That being said, her memory phase is still absolutely the worst feature about her. I have ADHD, my ability to memorize things like this can be difficult at the best of times. PoE players: Our game has a wide diversity of builds.
Also PoE players: The [league mechanic] doesn't need to be nerfed, you just need to play a [current meta] build! MFers found strength in their Afflictions. They became reliant on them. I am not so foolish. |
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Well said! I hate it too.
Softcore, solo self-found.
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" Nah, Sirus is way better designed, imo. You can do him with zdps and dodge everything. Maven you just die, because of to many memory games in the last phase. Not that they are impossible, but even if you are somewhat good it's kind of 50/50 if you get a fair shot sometimes. I can do Sirus deathless or with one death all the time. Maven i always need 3 portals and Uber Elder depends on the recovery i have. With giga leech ofc deathless, but if i lack recovery i die if to much is going on with the elder adds and such.... Sirus is of those 3 the easiest by far, imo. You can dance around him for 30 minutes without dying...That is not possible in many other boss fights... talking about normal builds here ofc, league starters. One hitting bosses/phase bosses doesn't count^^ Last edited by Strickl3r#3809 on Dec 21, 2023, 3:23:50 PM
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" See, it's the opposite for me with Sirus. He spams you with so many hazards, everything's in the same color, and he has an awful tendency of blinking off screen and immediately following up with his "Die" barrage. Meanwhile, all of Maven's abilities are heavily telegraphed and easily dodged. The arena hazards she creates can easily be mitigated by piling the homing bombs to the edge of the arena or the center. The only thing I hate about Maven is her memory puzzle, for reasons I had said in my earlier post. PoE players: Our game has a wide diversity of builds.
Also PoE players: The [league mechanic] doesn't need to be nerfed, you just need to play a [current meta] build! MFers found strength in their Afflictions. They became reliant on them. I am not so foolish. |
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Yes, everything but the memory game in the last phase is kind of easy in the Maven fight, i def agree on that, but damage uptime can be hard for a lot of builds especially in the last phase.
Last edited by Strickl3r#3809 on Dec 21, 2023, 3:33:37 PM
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" Change memory game to a mechanic of fast reaction and it is a 10/10 boss fight |
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Completely disagree and if all you do is fail the memory game you still can beat her. If you can’t then it’s a character issue after that.
The maven is poe’s best boss fight in the game hands down and probably one of my favorite fights just hands down in general. The fight actually has mechanics that are outside of the box thinking with the memory game. A mechanic you have to engage with or die which I like. Rather than just “don’t stand in big boom or you die” mechanics for literally every other boss. Positioning the frost wells correctly. And in her Uber version where they remain between each phase which is also a great mechanic. I like that they moved her tri beam anti regen to the base version as well, too many people just stood in it. Her final phase can be hard with the memory game but it really has nothing else hitting you, so don’t panic and move correctly and you’ll be fine. Just make sure the frost puddles are in the center. They got close to making another good one with with the searing Exarch and his meteor phase but he’s pretty dull after that. And you can cheese them with totems/minions which is lame. He does really nothing after that. 10/10 chefs kiss boss fight in this game. Wish more unique mechanics like her memory game were in more fights. Mash the clean
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lets see it then. post a video of you surviving her memory bullshit in the final phase three times in a row.
[Removed by Support] edited for alliteration Last edited by Chulainn_GGG#0000 on Dec 21, 2023, 7:39:29 PM
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" [Removed by Support] You have room for improvement if base maven is getting her memory game three times in the last phase. In this run it was twice in the last phase, but the amount of times wouldn't have made a difference. Heres pics, can make a video if I really feel like it, dont need to. Regular maven is pretty straightforward, thousands of players get it done. Just not you? I see you have the achievement so idk what the issue is other than you not liking the memory game [Removed by Support] Only one portal was used and heres the loot so deathless.   The game is not at fault dude, try to look inward before pointing the finger at the game. [Removed by Support] If you manage to die 6 times to the mechanic and not kill her than its a you issue not the game. Mash the clean Last edited by Chulainn_GGG#0000 on Dec 21, 2023, 9:08:39 PM
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