Why do POE players always feel the need to hate on every league ?
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It's because of GGG's approach.
They deliberately go full potato on every single release. Then they let people stew for a few days, then they tone it down to more or less they knew it should have been, and all the simps to " GGG is so great, they listen to the community " . "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die. " ~ Hunter S Thompson ~
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" Give people multiple skills and then punish them for trying to test them . Great logic. |
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" Ugh, leave it to forum people to come up with the most black/white scenarios. Having a cost attached to respeccing doesn't mean you cannot experiment at all. You get 20 for free from just playing through the acts and Chance Orbs drop plenty even for new players which you can trade to the vendor for extra Regrets. If you are not just looking to create dissent, maybe try arguing in good faith for once. This is boring The opposite of knowledge is not illiteracy, but the illusion of knowledge.
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Not every league, but this league deserves all the bashing.
God aweful mechanic. You have to go into an area that has 1 tenth of the mob density of a normal map. Then it makes rare monsters in your maps 20 times tankier, which makes the map take 400% longer to clear. That is soooo not worth it. How can they release a crappy mechanic that makes mobs 20 times tankier is beyong my understanding. I just did a harvest in a tier 5 map and a rare with regen mod was triple empowered. It took me 3 mins to kill and i had to facetank it. If it was in a tier 16 maps i wouldnt have been able to kill it, losing all my harvest. Some rares with regen can even be unkillable. If it happens in a harvest, bye bye harvest encounter. In a blight? Bye bye blight encounter. In ultimatum? Bye bye ultimatum encounter. Does GGG even have a QA team? Last edited by Krayken on Dec 16, 2023, 12:01:01 PM
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" People loved Sentinel. So now enjoy Sentinel 2.0, btu this time with Archnemesis. Sentinel league would feel totally diffrent if it was made AFTER addition of Archnemesis mods. | |
" Oh the irony xD Free respeccs are indeed undesireable but the fact is that respeccing in POE is by leaps and bounds the most expensive out of all ARPGs in the market despite the fact that this game claims to have have so much freedom and choice in terms of builds. Not only are we talking about more than 100 passives in total for a high level char, they are also dependent on each other so more often than not you can't just respec a cluster/path because other clusters depend on that and then there is the fact that this game is balanced around trade and regret orbs are currency that can be traded for other stuff, and not exactly worthless currency at that so using them for their intended purpose has large opportunity cost. It's not a coincidence that POE is widely considered to be incredibly punishing and hostile towards new players where the vast majority of the community, including many long time players can't make builds on their own and consider it selfpunishment or foolishness to even try. If you end up with a failed build it's actually much more reasonable/economical to just make a new char from scratch than respeccing the whole thing. The other big ARPGs on the market all have cost to their respeccs and unlike POE, they actually have things that are irrevesable but none off them is even remotely as punishing as this game. After i've said all that you will go and take out your elitist attitude and say how it's great that POE is so punishing that all the scrubs should just FO and bow to pros like you instead of complaining right? Because that's apparently your idea of "arguing in good faith". |
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" Had to sneak a personal attack in there somewhere, right? Gotta poison the well before you start your argument after all, because surely that'll lead to a fruitful conversation and convince the other side of your superior arguments. /s You are absolutely free to build your character however you like. The way you phrase it you make it sound like all skill points are eternal, but even after a relatively slow start for me in a small private league I have the equivalent of 300 respect points just sitting in my stash at my disposal to be usable whenever I need them. Last Epoch's respec system is awful by comparison, as respeccing there actively sacrifices player power temporarily until you gain back the XP to level your skills back to max. I much prefer farming up currency before I decide I want to make changes and retain full power to that non-sensical system they refuse to give up on. The big upside to it supposedly is being able to change your build on a whim during a story playthrough, but the reset hits even harder before you reach enough minimum skill levels through the acts. They need to get back to the drawing board on that one, seriously. Grim Dawn is a singleplayer game. There are many ways to respec from full respec tonics (attributes, passives, devotions all separate) as well as singular point respecs offered by an NPC. It's well designed, but it's a single player game. Hell, you can save edit your characters and no one bats an eye. Not much to draw conclusions from really. Haven't played D2R much but afaik there's a few free respecs available and then it becomes quite grindy to get the essences together. Can't say much about that. D3/D4 I really don't wanna compare because the audience is very different and much more casual. As I said before, there is free respecc'ing in PoE. 20 points per character upon creation, then once per season for a full respec for the standard bros. Could PoE be more noob-friendly? Sure. Was that the point of the initial argument? Hell no it wasn't. What I said was that making respeccing free takes importance away from making decisions. 'Choice' is important in Path of Exile and you are invited to 'think' before making one. I much prefer the concept of thinking before making decisions to it being whatever. You can disagree with that sentiment and that's okay. I'm not looking to convince you at all, just asking for some basic respect for differing opinions and viewpoints. The opposite of knowledge is not illiteracy, but the illusion of knowledge.
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Honestly the leauge mechanic works just fine when your build hits 10mil dps or higher. It isn't really worth it until then but when you hit that dps check suddenly it becomes very worthwhile and boosts the drops from other mechanics like crazy.
The wisp trail stuff could def use a QoL improvement but the empowering rewards are pretty generous in maps. | |
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Because GGG always messes something up which in most cases is the same mistake they repeated every other league. Currently I dont know about you but EU servers are beyond cancer. Lag 50% of the time. Disconnects 15% of the time because ping goes up to 10k and you just get dc'd.
I got a build which can do everything that is related to the league but when I defeat that super mega uber empowered boss with 30 affixes on it just for it to drop 3 rare items and 4 orbs of aug makes me think..why is this the same like every start of every league. I love the league I played it daily and I will keep playing but GGG deserves most of the trash they get. People really are not mad because their builds suck or stuff since most people follow guides and the ones who dont do it are either new so they dont know better or have fun with some weird off meta builds and they dont care too much. So basically new league mechanic just like every single one for the past idk how many years is just hard if youre not geared and not rewarding and after you are geared is easy and still not rewarding so you grinded to do the league mechanic for no reason and might as well skip it. And now EU servers are also currently maintained by 3 carrots I assume since an entire week went by and it just got worse every day. That being said I am deciding which core pack to buy that aint really that freaking expensive but cool enough. Cya nerds and GGG please put humans to work on the servers...carrots are not really optimal for that | |
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Because GGG removes quality of life changes so they can reimplement them and pretend they are doing us a favor see alt quality gems -> 900 skill gems lost 100 niche skill gems gained.
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