Why do POE players always feel the need to hate on every league ?

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ArtCrusade wrote:

Objectively? You mean that as in perceivable through facts and evidence, without prejudice or bias? Can you prove that? The game has steadily attracted more and more players so I'd be surprised if you could prove the opposite

https://poedb.tw/us/League#ConcurrentPlayers


The player base statistically is around 60/40 steam vs client. We know this from the announcements GGG makes about peak player concurrency.

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Jgizle wrote:

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ArtCrusade wrote:

Objectively? You mean that as in perceivable through facts and evidence, without prejudice or bias? Can you prove that? The game has steadily attracted more and more players so I'd be surprised if you could prove the opposite

https://poedb.tw/us/League#ConcurrentPlayers


The player base statistically is around 60/40 steam vs client. We know this from the announcements GGG makes about peak player concurrency.

2 years ago were e.g. scourge & ultimatum. since you just provided a link and no numbers, lets take a look:

ancestor launch: 165k
crucible launch: 211k
scourge lauch: 150k
ultimatum launch: 154k

ancestor 2 weeks: 85k
crucible 2 weeks: 103k
scourge 2 weeks: 60k
ultimatum 2 weeks: 88k

ancestor 4 weeks: 63k
crucible 4 weeks: 67k
scourge 4 weeks: 57k
ultimatum 4 weeks: 57k

ancestor 8 weeks: 33k
crucible 8 weeks: 27k
scourge 8 weeks: 17k
ultimatum 8 weeks: 19k

your point again? where is the objective decline that no one can deny?

I am not sure how you are looking at those numbers and come up with that statement.

I said nothing about last league. Posted nothing, i didnt go on any forum.
Why not ? Becouse it was good and i enjoyed it and i played the game instead.

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Jgizle wrote:

Ok to be fair its just objectively true that 90% of the leagues that have come out in the past 2 years are straight up worse than the leagues that came out the previous 2 years before that.

That's a fact, supported by player numbers and player drop off over the last 2 years compared to the previous 2 years. It is common for some of the objectively strongest league mechanics of the last 2 years to be died to the most obnoxious, boring, or over tuned content in the game.

Show me those facts. Crucible was biggest league ever, no other league had this many players day 1. ToTa was league with best retention in PoE history. You can check both on steam charts or on reddit (people like to post stats there).
Where are those objetive facts showing we have worse leagues fro past 2 years?

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Aynix wrote:

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Jgizle wrote:

Ok to be fair its just objectively true that 90% of the leagues that have come out in the past 2 years are straight up worse than the leagues that came out the previous 2 years before that.

That's a fact, supported by player numbers and player drop off over the last 2 years compared to the previous 2 years. It is common for some of the objectively strongest league mechanics of the last 2 years to be died to the most obnoxious, boring, or over tuned content in the game.

Show me those facts. Crucible was biggest league ever, no other league had this many players day 1. ToTa was league with best retention in PoE history. You can check both on steam charts or on reddit (people like to post stats there).
Where are those objetive facts showing we have worse leagues fro past 2 years?

Bro dropped a link proving himself wrong and dipped, it's so funny

People reading stats in a way that fit their sceenario, lovely.

Because they nerfed 2 skills i wanted use this leauge.
Because the make game for bunch of streamers and guys thhat will finish leauge in a week playing in party.
Because they have no testers and leagues mechanics are always too
hard in the beginning.
because after all theses years you still cant respec for free.

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kaktttusikaa3 wrote:

Because they have no testers and leagues mechanics are always too
hard in the beginning.

We are the testers.

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kaktttusikaa3 wrote:

because after all theses years you still cant respec for free.

if you could just respec for free, how much importance do your build choices really have?

I'd hate if they made it 'free'

the cost is appropriate.

in-map league, good

out-of-map league, bad

simple as that