[Removed by Support] RF is actually buffed, or am I missing something here??

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Baharoth15 wrote:
Every single league since 3.14 i had to go and dump more and more currency into my builds just to keep them on the same level because something got nerfed. Unlike league players who sport a fire and forget mentality in terms of builds it's very much noticable if you play standard.


I can understand this perspective for sure, and for what its worth I never understood GGG's balance approach either I just gave up years ago on trying to get them to not kick things that are already down.

Hell I spent the entire time trying to get them to fix the animation "bug" with strikes that makes them all feel like shit at anything under 4-5aps (and wasn't a problem prior to when they made the change) exacerbated by them deciding that some melee skills needed an AS penalty to make it feel more thematically correct.

Thanks for explaining your perspective though I won't question it in future as it makes sense why you'd be particularly unhappy with them.


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Skill doesnt need to be OP to be nerfed. They nerf popular skills, not OP skills (which usually are OP skills at the same time, but not always)


Which is why people get annoyed I suspect because they have to relearn the game each league. its fine to have some easy skill combos aslong as they are not OP.
IGN: Zakariaz
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Zakariaz wrote:


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Skill doesnt need to be OP to be nerfed. They nerf popular skills, not OP skills (which usually are OP skills at the same time, but not always)


Which is why people get annoyed I suspect because they have to relearn the game each league. its fine to have some easy skill combos aslong as they are not OP.


People cry every league that meta is stale and needs to be changed. How do you change meta? By making more skills on par with current meta? No. People would still play their same beloved skill, because why change?
By nerfing metas kills to the level of worse skills? ALso no. If their old skills is still one of the best (but not as OP as before) they will still play same build.
The only way is to nerf meta builds ad buff something new to be on the level of old meta. Thats how GGG shakes uo the meta and thats what people want.
Ofc some of those who played current meta will be unhappy but thats a sacrifice we are willing to make ;)
Op looks kinda new to PoE. New players don’t think beyond paper stats due to limited understanding. Overall, RF is an unnecessary nerf. Ggg has failed again and should revert plus buff it.
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Hey, you wanted a meta change. You got one. DWI ;)
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DreadLordAvatar wrote:
Op looks kinda new to PoE. New players don’t think beyond paper stats due to limited understanding. Overall, RF is an unnecessary nerf. Ggg has failed again and should revert plus buff it.


it was more than necessary. They failed only in one thing. That they allowed RF to be meta for so long. People were comfortable playing same build over and over for too long, to the point they sarted thinking that is the norm.


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People cry every league that meta is stale and needs to be changed.


No people dont. people who would never play RF do. I think there is a segment who just dislike there being easily accesible skills that can do most content fine with investment.

You dont speak on behalf of the community so voice your opinions as your own please.
IGN: Zakariaz
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Aynix wrote:
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DreadLordAvatar wrote:
Op looks kinda new to PoE. New players don’t think beyond paper stats due to limited understanding. Overall, RF is an unnecessary nerf. Ggg has failed again and should revert plus buff it.


it was more than necessary. They failed only in one thing. That they allowed RF to be meta for so long. People were comfortable playing same build over and over for too long, to the point they sarted thinking that is the norm.



and they left other 10 top tier meta builds untouched? your post make no sense it sounds like you just hating on RF and no other build
Last edited by Deviant#8289 on Dec 4, 2023, 8:49:42 AM
As a representative of RF-cuck-community I'm gonna say that at first I was a little unsettled. I think that RF will not be as smooth "until you get it going" but eventually it will be as good if not better.
Is it a good idea for a league starter ... certainly depends on the transfigured variants - if this is your first league where you think "this time I'm going to try RF" and maybe it's your start into PoE alltogether then ... probably not the best choice

All I know is that I haven't not league started RF for a long time and while I definitely will be playing RF eventually during this league I'm not yet sure if I will league start it.
Last edited by Adorak#2631 on Dec 4, 2023, 8:52:41 AM
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Gopstop22 wrote:
and they left other 10 top tier meta builds untouched? your post make no sense it sounds like you just hating on RF and no other build


Did you miss the part in the patch notes where they directly targeted top meta builds by nerfing Kaom's Spirit and Heatshiver?

Or the bugfix for Spell Cascade in relation to Doomblast?

At least get the facts right when making such bold statements
The opposite of knowledge is not illiteracy, but the illusion of knowledge.
Last edited by ArtCrusade#4438 on Dec 4, 2023, 9:14:28 AM

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