Suggestion: Musical instruments as an item class in POE2 to be used in Weapon Set 2

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SilentSymphony wrote:

A tough idea to make work for sure, If your heart is set on it OP i suggest taking what you can from the feedback here and trying to devise a more PoE way to bring music into our daily grind :P

You could find the perfect solution and have everyone here even agree with you screaming for it to be added and GGG still might not do it either, That doesn't mean its not worth your time, a step never taken leads you nowhere.

The only way i see this really working out is that if in the future GGG finally figures out how to make party-specific content we could see more utility skills in such an environment for weapons like a lute and other things when there's an actual demand for it as well as content that works with it.

This fast-paced garbage-compactor stuff has really been turning me off for a while now and its fine that such a type of content exists for those who enjoy it.. But if all of the content is like that then the game becomes very inhospitable for everything else that tries to have even the most basic shred of forethought or complexity.

That last part is a bit of a rant, I got my own issues with the way things are goin and probably leaned a little too hard on this topic xD

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They can indeed have another functions, such as Mesmerizing enemy mobs... if you put a damage over time AOE effect, Mesmerizing a mob, making it missing his attacks can be even a defensive mechanic, while still being able to damage them. There are plenty of cool options an interactions, more than you can imagine, I agree with you though that mana and life regen is not the most exciting of them.

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Varana wrote:

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They can indeed have another functions, such as Mesmerizing enemy mobs... if you put a damage over time AOE effect, Mesmerizing a mob, making it missing his attacks can be even a defensive mechanic, while still being able to damage them. There are plenty of cool options an interactions, more than you can imagine, I agree with you though that mana and life regen is not the most exciting of them.

Those are better options, for sure. Crowd control is pretty much limited to some curse, chaos/hinder and chill/freeze builds - basically variants of occultists. So something like this sounds interesting, a genuinely new play mechanic.

That said, crowd control doesn't really matter much if main skills can obliterate the entire crowd in one shot. And it's not useful controlling a single mob in a pack - for example, think what Niles does in Heist, and consider trying to rely on that as your main skill!
This is a technique that has application in MMOs, and I could see it working in D4 where individual mobs have far more weight, but not much in PoE, particularly since you'd probably be unable to control the elites in a pack. And it would apply least at the top end (beyond me), because the builds successfully facing top/Uber content don't need this. And I don't see PoE adding content which forces grouping, most particularly pinnacle content.

That's probably why there are a minimal number of support builds used in PoE - auramancer is the obvious one which actually gets used, sometimes a cursebot, and there may be something viable as a warcry support though I've not seen one.
As well as there being no content which actually requires support PCs, if you're not running with a dedicated party then a support build is useless; and conversely solo players dislike the drastic scaling of speed and drops that comes if you do have dedicated supports.

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navigator4223 wrote:

Depends on execution.

I don't think PoE is the right game for a bard / musical instrument based gameplay because bards / music is very often for buffs (like in PF:WotR where part of meta is actually playing a bard, makes the game very smooth, tried it too).

PoE is mostly a single player / no party game style, though, and buffs are already covered by aura focused support characters, should one find themselves inclined to go party / coop.

I see an opportunity for a "pied piper" style quest, though.

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Celd wrote:

Well... we have fishing rods, so why not some musical instruments as well? :D

In all seriousness I would currently consider a musical instrument a novelty item with no real gameplay value, but a fun thing to own. To take an example from Poe2, where spears/crossbows granted skills, the musical instruments could grant something that plays music. But GGG is free to have other ideas as well. :)

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SuperMotte wrote:

There is already singing called "Warcries".

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SuperMotte wrote:

There is already singing called "Warcries".