[3.18] Gryph's Tank Simulator - A Detonate Dead Ignite Elementalist

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kjanos89 wrote:

That would be bold, if we take spectres for example they got nerfed slightly first and then each league to the point spectre necro barely keeps up with other builds. I used to play Kay's spectre build (which is awesome!) for 3 leagues in a row and it was harder and harder every time I wanted to approach end game with it.
It's 100% not the author's fault tho.
If PoE was a Blizzard game this build would do 2k damage max the moment I roll it, thank God GGG has a different balance policy :D .
So in my opinion detonate dead will be hit by the nerfbat where it hurts the gem's overall usefulness but not too much for now.
Same for ignite, even you Gryph made a cool video about how easy it is to make full screen clears with any ignite build, I'm 100% sure these 2 will be brought down, the question is if the 2 nerfs will wreck this build or not.
Also too many builds utilize aegis aurora.
Dark pact seems interesting as IF DD/Ignite will be useless DP would be quite an easy pick as replacement.

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Skill Balance
Problem:
Detonate Dead builds can gain significantly more damage by diluting the pool of Desecratable monsters with high-life Spectres. Because of how Desecrate selected monsters, the fewer monsters occurring in the area, the more damage Detonate Dead dealt.

Solution:
Change Desecrate to have a fixed chance to spawn a Spectre corpse. This means Detonate Dead's damage should be more consistent based on which area in the game you are in. This also means there is no incentive to bring multiple different high-life spectre varieties, although you still benefit from bringing one high-life spectre into areas.

Specifics:
Spoiler
Desecrate and Corpse Walk now have a static 15% chance to spawn a Spectre Corpse, rather than a 2x relative weighting compared to all other possible corpse types

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Lower the damage of player Ignite by 28% to partially offset the damage increase that many Ignite-applying spells have received. For the majority of high level spell gems, this is a slight damage buff when combined with the above changes. Burning Arrow, Armageddon Brand, Explosive Arrow and several other skills have received changes to compensate for the lower damage of Ignite. Attack skills and a small number of spells that are not typically aligned with Ignites will have weaker Ignites as a result of this change. We plan to introduce a mechanic for Ignite damage with melee attack skills to give some unconventional Ignite builds a new option for enhancing Ignites. Details about this will be included in the patch notes.

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NoImagination wrote:

Well, this is promising:

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Skill Balance
Problem:
Detonate Dead builds can gain significantly more damage by diluting the pool of Desecratable monsters with high-life Spectres. Because of how Desecrate selected monsters, the fewer monsters occurring in the area, the more damage Detonate Dead dealt.

Solution:
Change Desecrate to have a fixed chance to spawn a Spectre corpse. This means Detonate Dead's damage should be more consistent based on which area in the game you are in. This also means there is no incentive to bring multiple different high-life spectre varieties, although you still benefit from bringing one high-life spectre into areas.

Specifics:
Spoiler
Desecrate and Corpse Walk now have a static 15% chance to spawn a Spectre Corpse, rather than a 2x relative weighting compared to all other possible corpse types

Although:

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Lower the damage of player Ignite by 28% to partially offset the damage increase that many Ignite-applying spells have received. For the majority of high level spell gems, this is a slight damage buff when combined with the above changes. Burning Arrow, Armageddon Brand, Explosive Arrow and several other skills have received changes to compensate for the lower damage of Ignite. Attack skills and a small number of spells that are not typically aligned with Ignites will have weaker Ignites as a result of this change. We plan to introduce a mechanic for Ignite damage with melee attack skills to give some unconventional Ignite builds a new option for enhancing Ignites. Details about this will be included in the patch notes.

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eldest-bike4 wrote:

Hello gryph

We survived ! Shhhhhhh


Fire burst will be problem now though

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kjanos89 wrote:

Yeah the 28% most probably means *less* damage.
A bit bigger nerf than I expected tbh.