[3.18] Gryph's Tank Simulator - A Detonate Dead Ignite Elementalist

Tbh if they not nerf us too the ground because of recent events i will go elementalist next league cause of you haha <3

I have 2 questions if you not mind

1) i want to try unearth , i have curency but ppl not loging in , would you say lvl 27 unearth+ helmet enchant will be comparable to desecrate with stoneskin flayer ?

2) any advice to craft the chest for me ? I have magic with 100% global defences as prefix and T1 cold res as suffix

I would like max health as next prefix , res as sufix and open prefix to craft % life as max es

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eldest-bike4 wrote:

Tbh if they not nerf us too the ground because of recent events i will go elementalist next league cause of you haha <3

I have 2 questions if you not mind

1) i want to try unearth , i have curency but ppl not loging in , would you say lvl 27 unearth+ helmet enchant will be comparable to desecrate with stoneskin flayer ?

2) any advice to craft the chest for me ? I have magic with 100% global defences as prefix and T1 cold res as suffix

I would like max health as next prefix , res as sufix and open prefix to craft % life as max es

I like Unearth because of the consistency and that I don't need to do any corpse fishing, when I made the switch it was night and day difference. I think Corpsewalker boots scale differently than desecrate though. Not 100% sure on this.
As for the gem level, each corpse level is basically 10% more damage than the last so a level 30 is about 33% more damage than a level 27.

As for chest crafting, If you want life, I would use Deafening Greed Essences to craft it.

Hey Gryphenprey, great build, I love the idea!! I think I will go DD next league, unless it goes through GGG nerf axe. How easy is to target Unearth corpses with DD without any exploding chest? Could an Arcanist Brand be an alternative to Great Volley Support to create corpses always next to a boss?

eldest-bike4, could I get you POB please? Just looking at your profile, I'm wondering... why do you have Arcane Surge Support linked to your IC/CwDT? DD explosion is not affected by Spell Damage.

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Maniollo6 wrote:

Hey Gryphenprey, great build, I love the idea!! I think I will go DD next league, unless it goes through GGG nerf axe. How easy is to target Unearth corpses with DD without any exploding chest? Could an Arcanist Brand be an alternative to Great Volley Support to create corpses always next to a boss?

eldest-bike4, could I get you POB please? Just looking at your profile, I'm wondering... why do you have Arcane Surge Support linked to your IC/CwDT? DD explosion is not affected by Spell Damage.

To target the corpses on the ground? Not hard. you can see how it performs without the explosion chest in some of my videos from before I swapped to it.

There's no reason to Arca Brand Unearth. We don't need a ton of corpses to do damage as we are DOT. Brand would actually just be slower.

More questions, sorry if they don't make sense, I don't have too much experience with ignite builds :)
Is "Fan the Flames" needed if we already use Ignite Proliferation?
Could Cruelty Support with the 40% increased Cruelty Mastery be better for bosses than Awakened Burning Damage support? The max of the Cruelty buff is 50% more DOT, looks stronger on paper.

Edit. Damn you wiki, Cruelty maxes at 40 more, not worth it.

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Maniollo6 wrote:

More questions, sorry if they don't make sense, I don't have too much experience with ignite builds :)
Is "Fan the Flames" needed if we already use Ignite Proliferation?
Could Cruelty Support with the 40% increased Cruelty Mastery be better for bosses than Awakened Burning Damage support? The max of the Cruelty buff is 50% more DOT, looks stronger on paper.

Edit. Damn you wiki, Cruelty maxes at 40 more, not worth it.

Fan the Flames is for the Explosions to prolif. If you're not doing explodey+prolif clear then you don't need it. Otherwise the method won't work without Fan the Flames.

If Unearth corpse life is 170k after all the increases and Stoneskin Flayer is 280k before any increase wouldn't that be 2x dmg without spending a fortune on +5 gloves?
I get the consistency part but damage is way worse for way more investment.

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groar wrote:

If Unearth corpse life is 170k after all the increases and Stoneskin Flayer is 280k before any increase wouldn't that be 2x dmg without spending a fortune on +5 gloves?
I get the consistency part but damage is way worse for way more investment.

Honestly something in my calculations is probably wrong because if I apply the same math to the spectres I get 175k on an Elementalist and 249k on a Necromancer on a level 84 corpse (Sirus 8 basically).

To break that down:
16265 base life on level 84 monster
X 9 for the 800% more life modifier for those spectres= 146385
X 1.2 for Elementalist or 1.7 for Necro.
and that gets you to 175,7662 or 248,854 respectively. But only for level 84 (Sirus)

If you wanted to check for Simulacrums...level 75. It's be 9,436 base life.
102k for Elementalist
144k for Necro.

For Unearth I have:
Level 95 Corpse: 31,220 base life
Bone Archer life multiplier: 2.4x
Phantasmal quality+Tree life increase: 2.24x
=167,838 corpse life with no variance based on area level and no corpse fishing for max damage output.

Now as for the 280k for Flayers, that's clearly way more than what I have been calculating.
If I reverse the numbers we can divide that by 8 to see the base life is 35,295
Bone Archer at level 84 is 49413. When divided by 1.4 is ALSO 35,295.

Which means that number is more than double the base life number on the chart I was using:
https://poedb.tw/us/Monster#MonsterStats

Which also means I've been wrong in my math when multiplying the base life totals by 2.4 and 9 and I was correct in my original calculations of 1.4 and 8. But if the base life was off by more than 2x, this would make a big difference.
Because, sure 282k at level 84 base corpse life on Spectres is pretty bonkers. That'd be 339k for Ele and 480k for necro.

BUUUUT a Bone Archer at level 84 is 49,413k. Except, ours are upwards of level 95 and I have no idea how much that actually amounts to. My best guess based on looking at the different levels and life is that it's somewhere between 11-12% more life per level. At level 95 it'd end up being around 160-165k at a guess. Which (rounding down to 160k) would be 358,400 for Ele and 438,400 for necro.

If this is correct: That means slightly more damage as an Elementalist and slightly less damage as a Necro in exactly level 84 zones when compared to Spectres. In anything less than this the damage on Spectres drops off a lot and is far less consistent.

TL:DR
My math is likely wrong but in the "I'm probably doing more damage than I think I am" kind of way.
Unearth with 95 corpse level does equivalent damage to Spectres in 84 zones and substantially more in areas less than that (Simulacrums for example)
Unearth casts faster
Unearth does not require any corpse fishing

I really hope someone with more insight can chime in. Lol.

Geat build, I have done Maven, Sirus and other bosses without a problem. Also, you do not need the gear the authour has, for example I have only +3 gloves with level 2 enhance, do not have these nasty faster ignite damage Implicits:)

Anyway, I will try this build next league again for sure; provided that it is not nerfed somehow:)

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Holyjustice wrote:

Geat build, I have done Maven, Sirus and other bosses without a problem. Also, you do not need the gear the authour has, for example I have only +3 gloves with level 2 enhance, do not have these nasty faster ignite damage Implicits:)

Anyway, I will try this build next league again for sure; provided that it is not nerfed somehow:)

Yeah there's a lot of innate power in this build for sure. I did put together a 10ex-ish (at the time) budget version that was able to do all the normal endgame content fairly easily. +3 gloves Incandescent Heart and fairly generic other gear.

Hoping they nerf Desecrate+spectres and leave Unearth alone. xD