eHP of old evasion vs new evasion, and how much easier it is to hit the evade cap (w/graphs)

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I already have made a post a while ago about evasion vs effective life so comparing the new evasion formula to that is very easy. You can go read that if you want, however the thing we care about here is how much better is new evasion.

The tl;dr for how I defined effective life is:

If you half the chances the enemy hits you then the effective life is doubled



The blue line on the left is your eHP with new evasion. and the black line on the right is eHP with old evasion. The straight lines by the axis are 10s of thousands of evasion, so this graph is very zoomed out. What we can gather from this graph is that eHP gain is still roughly proportional to evasion for evasion builds.

This isnt particularly the numbers we want or care about, we wanna know how much better. To find that is simple, divide the two:



On the graph I've labled a few points for reference. As you can see the buffs impact you significantly more the more evasion you have

Please note that these numbers make sense in isolation to flat evade chance, and to avatar of the chase. Without either of those, You can comfortably say it's about 108% easier to hit evade cap. This is an upper bound and unrealistic but the real number on how much easier it is to hit evade cap off evasion alone.

This should also compound with the statement ggg made about increasing sources of evasion by roughly 10%. As not only is evasion now more powerful, it is easier to get

tl;dr: Using evasion alone, it is now over double as easy to hit evade cap, or with avatar of the chase and flat evade. you'd expect at least 50% more eHP from a build with the same amount of evasion, not even factoring in how ggg is making evasion easier to get. with the nerfs to blind, from 100% more eHP to 25% more eHP, to negate this, 60% more eHP from evasion is needed. I have shown that the eHP gained is about that much, and while this post was not about this. It's worth mentioning as people seem to be focusing on this.

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Here's a sheet with a comparison of old evasion % and new evasion % for T1 and T16 monsters - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yY4twPIK7a_fUjeaQTt3O-2ZWyDWOGipYDZIOdHxSKM/edit#gid=0

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DarthSki44 wrote:

Right but this fine analysis forgets to mention that with entropy you are guaranteed to be hit at some point.

In later maps & endgame this means death is assured.

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Draegnarrr wrote:

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DarthSki44 wrote:

Right but this fine analysis forgets to mention that with entropy you are guaranteed to be hit at some point.

In later maps & endgame this means death is assured.

No it doesn't you don't have to play raider with 3k life you know. Rangers have their own problems getting huge life pools but there are quite a few ways to build around that occasional hit you take.

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Draegnarrr wrote:

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DarthSki44 wrote:

Right but this fine analysis forgets to mention that with entropy you are guaranteed to be hit at some point.

In later maps & endgame this means death is assured.

No it doesn't you don't have to play raider with 3k life you know. Rangers have their own problems getting huge life pools but there are quite a few ways to build around that occasional hit you take.

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Phrazz wrote:

An evasion-to-evasion comparison is all fine and dandy, but most (soon-to-be-old) character were running around with close-to-capped evasion AND at least 50/50 dodge/spell dodge. While we get spell suppression instead of spell dodge, I don't think "easier-to-get evasion" is making up for capped dodge on top of evasion.

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yamface wrote:

and enemies that randomly have rt will always hit you with dodge removed