[3.19] Ice Dancing Queen - Icestorm/Cyclone/CI - Viable For Everything

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Baloosh wrote:

Lighten up, Francis. It's ok to tell the truth about your build - even if it is the same things that affect almost every other build. Doesn't make it a bad build, but people should know not to expect your results (on average).

It's not the truth, not even close. There is a T16 mapping video right at the top of the guide showing that 150c is enough to do any maps. And a video doing an uber boss with ~25ex budget.

Saying that the build requires some 'expensive upgrades' or 'luck' to work is just absurd. If I'm running around with 100ex+ gear after 1 month in the league - it doesn't mean that everybody needs that kind of gear. It means that you can start from zero and have that kind of gear in 1 month by just playing the game and working on the challenges. I don't flip currency. I've never had a lucky mirror/Mageblood/Squire/HH/etc drop ever. I just play the game.

New video: Uber Feared and other invitations in the 'uber' mode

Having a great time with this build, killed uber shaper today after not playing since harvest. Didn't even realise until level 96 that I was missing the double ES leech node, oops lol.

About those rings you guys are talking about - you don't really need them until ubers, and even at uber shaper I only had one of them. If you're still struggling to afford them at that point, but maybe as a budget option you could buy some int% unique synth rings (circle of guilt fear etc), turn them into a corrupted rare with a vaal orb (which keeps the synth mods), and then recombine with an int + resist rare ring? I tested a bit and you can recombine with the bricked unique, so you just need to get lucky to bring the mods you want onto the correct base.

Anyway thanks for the build, looking forward to pushing towards the harder ubers.

@hyphur: I bought out the cheap circle rings and tried that. Managed to get one rare and combined to a successful %int 53 int 30 cold ring (missed out on the lightning resist I needed also.)

You can use catalysts on the target ring and you'll have a 50% chance it gets carried over.

I tried combining that again with a second ring and lost the synthesized implicit sadly.

Note in both cases the ring remained corrupted, even when it took the implicit from the second uncorrupted ring (which makes sense, though I haven't seen this written down.)

Seems like a fun project to do!

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OK, more info on this.

1. Don't vaal circle rings. Just buy corrupted 6% int rings cheaply. You can recombine these. Note that corrupting circle rings that give you a rare LOSES the synthesis tag.

2. Catalysts seem to be carried over every single time so far.

3. There's a delicate balance on the affixes you should have. Ideally, both rings should have only useful affixes. That will maximize your chances of getting a good combination. But if you have too few, you'll lose affixes and/or get a random recombination affix added.

4. I have yet to make a good ring.

Hmm. I can't figure out how to get % to avoid being stunned on my cluster jewels. The Harvest crafts are all for the normal jewel types. I don't see the modifier on craftofexile either.

Ah, it is indeed a harvest craft, and I've apparently been unlucky. See https://pathofexile.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_jewel_implicit_mods. That page says 10% but it does seem to go up to 25%.

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Graiaule wrote:

Hmm. I can't figure out how to get % to avoid being stunned on my cluster jewels. The Harvest crafts are all for the normal jewel types. I don't see the modifier on craftofexile either.

Ah, it is indeed a harvest craft, and I've apparently been unlucky. See https://pathofexile.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_jewel_implicit_mods. That page says 10% but it does seem to go up to 25%.

Fandom wiki has not been updated for ages. Use https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Jewel#Implicit_mods instead.


Harvest craft is 15%. Corruption can get you 20%-25%

Thanks, Cjin -- you're always good for the deep, fine details of POE!

New video: Uber Maven

Just for the challenge and bragging rights. There is no real reason to do the uber version. Elevated sextant isn't worth it. The regular Maven drops the same other loot and is very easy with this build, as long as you can memorize 6 numbers/directions.

Well, I'm at a loss as to what to do for my next upgrade. I earn ex slowly enough that the price of the rings is going up faster than my ex supply (currently at 17 ex.)

Choices are:

a. Try for 10% and 60int on helm. That's a 2.3% dps increase, not worth it.

b. Grind, grind, grind and hope to build enough ex to snarf a 7% 68 int ring. That's an 8% dps increase, probably worth it. The ring I'd need is 25ex at the moment (or I could attempt to craft with essences -- blank rings are 17ex.)

c. Blow it all trying to craft an int amulet for the HOWA build people (who seem to have lots of currency...) and hopefully make more back IF it sells. Cheapest one is ~35 ex. In my three crafting attempts so far, they've all failed miserably (and -9 ex too... which I could actually have spent to get that ring instead.)

d. Crafting an amulet for myself requires I get str and dex in several places I do not have it. So I'd need enough currency to ensure I can recraft these pieces.

e. Forbidden jewels are ~50 ex for the pair. Sure looks like I should be farming the Searing Exarch and not the Eater of Worlds for forbidden jewels, as the exarch jewels are 10x the price of the eater jewels.

I'm doing blueprints, and that's what's got me my 17 ex. But it's slow, and closer to 1 ex an hour at best.

I still need to find the &@^%# harvest crafts to get % stun on my cluster jewels, but per the wiki, that looks like a very poor chance to hit.

Ah well. First world problems, huh? I'm up to 7.5 days played, second highest time in league so far (highest was ~14 days when we could use 8 split personality jewels... remember those? I hit ~3700 int.)

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Graiaule wrote:

Well, I'm at a loss as to what to do for my next upgrade. I earn ex slowly enough that the price of the rings is going up faster than my ex supply (currently at 17 ex.)

The prices are crazy.
I stopped worrying and just play with what I can get. The most expensive thing bought cost 10ex.

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Graiaule wrote:

blank rings are 17ex.

Ouch. They were 2ex early in the league. I bought two with my first few exalts and rolled them with Spite essences initially just to get any semi-decent resists on top on the Int. Re-crafted later for the specific stats needed after upgrading the amulet.

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d. Crafting an amulet for myself requires I get str and dex in several places I do not have it.

You only need 1 good Str and 1 good Dex mod. Str can be rolled on the belt. I usually spam Spite on the belt until I get T1 Str mod on it, and then craft Aspect on it. If you randomly get decent double resists on the belt, then one of the rings can be Spite-crafted with Str and Aspect instead of the belt. Dex can be rolled on the other ring.

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e. Forbidden jewels are ~50 ex for the pair. Sure looks like I should be farming the Searing Exarch and not the Eater of Worlds for forbidden jewels, as the exarch jewels are 10x the price of the eater jewels.

Exarch is more profitable not only because of the jewels but also because he can drop Ashes. There is basically no reason not to run maps without that influence (and all relevant Atlas tree nodes) for your regular mapping.

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I'm doing blueprints, and that's what's got me my 17 ex. But it's slow, and closer to 1 ex an hour at best.

Heist is too slow. With this build you can do a lot better even with moderate gear. For example: run (buy if needed) maps occupied by Elder guardians. With Inevitable Ambush and the Maven watching. 4 at a time, a full set. Then do the Twisted invitation with Pay For Play, Captivated Interest and Height of Hubris. You can easily roll it with 70%+ iiq without getting any mods that break the build (e.g. no leech, no regen, ele reflect, reduced recovery). Elder guardians are pushovers, even all at once. You will get a ton of Elder frags, a full or almost full Maven Writ, and sometimes an awakened gem. Do the Elder, he's trivial. Get a random Watchers Eye. Do the Maven (the regular one, she's easy). Get random awakened gems. 4 maps, 1 invitation, 1-2 Elders, 1 Maven - that's a very fast round of farming. And you get multiple chances at dropping multi-ex gems or jewels.

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I still need to find the &@^%# harvest crafts to get % stun on my cluster jewels, but per the wiki, that looks like a very poor chance to hit.

There are 15 random harvest jewel implicits. And the cluster jewel craft is kinda rare. Just disable all mechanics but Harvest in the tree and take Stream of Consciousness. And take all Harvest nodes. You will find Harvest in almost every map. It will happen. Remember that you can also craft stun avoidance on gloves.