Changes to the Purposeful Harbinger Notable Passive

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clozzer wrote:

No, losing 150ex currency is the point. God damn it.

You're not losing anything, though.

You chose to buy 150 ex worth of items. You still have them, nobody took them away from you. You're just choosing not to want them anymore, and people are deciding they don't want to buy them off of you for the same amount you bought them for.

Pretty simple economy shit here. You buy stuff, stuff loses its value, it happens, nothing to cry over. But I guess you can cry if you want to, after all cry is free.

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Mazater wrote:

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clozzer wrote:

No, losing 150ex currency is the point. God damn it.

You're not losing anything, though.

You chose to buy 150 ex worth of items. You still have them, nobody took them away from you. You're just choosing not to want them anymore, and people are deciding they don't want to buy them off of you for the same amount you bought them for.

Pretty simple economy shit here. You buy stuff, stuff loses its value, it happens, nothing to cry over. But I guess you can cry if you want to, after all cry is free.

that's the most retarded analogy ever.

You bought a car. The manufacturer just removed the engine thought.

You still have your car, it just doesn't work anymore.

This league had a horrible start with a mechanic that actually makes you earn less currency. This was somewhat fixed but the core mechanic of this league is still one of the most dumb and untested I've seen so far for this singular reason:

YOUR LEAGUE MECHANIC FORCES ME TO CLEAR LESS EFFICIENT!

So instead of running my dunes map in a U-turn fashion the game now forces you to clear from left to right like a spass, making your farm a lot less efficient and forcing backtracking.

Now you're also nerfing rewards from said mechanic as well, because it was "game breaking"? The league itself is game breaking...

Should've just left this alone and call it a day and actually start working on the next league that it might actually be good and without a million errors because for once you had the time to test it properly.

That they had to nerf it after they thought it would not be necessary is certainly not great, though I'd rather a decision is revised when implications that had not been foreseen become obvious than to stick with decisions even if they are bad for the game.

Now, of course that's the real discussion: Was it bad for the game? Looking as neutrally at it as possible I'd say yes. The issue is not that it is strong, the issue is not that is potentially breaking the economy, the issue is that it is the only right choice for any circumstance. By a mile. It doesn't matter which skill, it doesn't matter what content - herald-stacking was always right. And that is long-term hurting the game.

Some compare it with Headhunter, but that item is not comparable with herald-stacking. At least for some encounters, for some skills there were better choices - sometimes HH is worse than other options (Sirus for example). With herald-stacking all choice in the game was removed. And yes, you could of course choose not to use it regardless. Just that is was suboptimal - much more than not using HH ever would be.

In the end, I believe that this is also the reason why they had to go back on their statement and come up with a nerf. Having one right choice would hurt the playerbase much more than this nerf. I mean, what is the end if it had stayed? Most would get bored sooner than later if all content is a walking simulator. As with god-mode, it is fun for a few hours and then it gets boring. Others would not be able to play it and simply leave, because it is not fun realizing that whatever build you are playing it would be better if you would use herald-stacking. Every thought, every decision is null and void. I honestly believe if this would have stayed in the game in two weeks the playerbase would be in shambles.

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RRoyalMarine wrote:

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Cajuntech wrote:

So does this mean the guardian ascendancy "auras" will no longer be affected?

Yes. Only aura's granted from skills on the toolbar it seems.
Which is a shitty change to do mid league.
Sure, it's an unintended side effect, but should NOT be changed until end of the league, as too many invested heavily in both time and game currency to put builds together for this.

I agree. Wife found a fiend card (most currency we've had any league), read about this build, read it wasn't going to be nerfed, she power-leveled the character for me and spent everything on the character. Not even going to get a fragment of what was invested based on current trade prices.

I agree it was overpowered/broken and should have been fixed. I just wish it would not have been mentioned that it wasn't going to be fixed.

I'm done with the league, but GGG doesn't lose anything as I'm not currently spending money on the game and I don't lose anything as there are so many other games to play while waiting for POE 2.

How do i request a refund for support packs? i dont want to support a company that lies to its customers after using them to get MTX purchases for herald skins. At this point they are worse then activision

Hey GGG. A lot of us around the world are under quarantine. This nerf is really going to bum a lot of people out who could really use some extra fun in their lives right now in a tough situation.

Give everyone a win and let us have a good time with these broken toys for a little while as we're stuck indoors worried about the world ending.

P.S. You said you wouldn't nerf it mid-league, makes it worse.

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Levito wrote:

Hey GGG. A lot of us around the world are under quarantine. This nerf is really going to bum a lot of people out who could really use some extra fun in their lives right now in a tough situation.

Give everyone a win and let us have a good time with these broken toys for a little while as we're stuck indoors worried about the world ending.

P.S. You said you wouldn't nerf it mid-league, makes it worse.

They do not give a fuck.

This is the most salt I've ever seen...jesus christ.....You'd think people are losing their livelihoods or something....oh wait....

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XNtrysyti wrote:

The only thing GGG did wrong was Bex promising that the interaction wouldn't be nerfed without a more thorough investigation done first.

It's ok, we still love you Bex. The only people that this remotely affected are RMTers (who deserve punishment anyway) and high rollers that can afford regardless of how much money they lose. Doesn't affect 99.9% of the player base.

I just watched this whole thing from the sideline, shrugged when I realized there's no way I'd ever afford this build and moved on. And shrugged again when it got nerfed.

I felt that.