General Discussion - In Conquerors of the Atlas, Elder Guardians are no longer in their own instance - Forum

" HoockBr wrote: Just hate how some map modes are just there to make impossible for some builds. like that shit no regen mode. Why not add no melee mode? no spells mode? or just please insert chaos here to play Punishing map mods are by design, you can either design a build to not be affected by them at the cost of something else, or they serve as an additional chaos sink on high tier maps. Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?	Posted by Summoner#6275 on Dec 5, 2019, 6:11:28 PM Quote this Post
what's the use in running that map? can't be loot cause you sent us down the path to unlearn that good items come from the game. age and treachery will triumph over youth and skill!	Posted by vio#1992 on Dec 5, 2019, 6:14:34 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post
ok, just make sure we never have to respawn in town again like with elder instances and uber elder which took you several leagues to be changed. and let map quantity apply to the previously instanced bosses.	Posted by dachoppa#6765 on Dec 5, 2019, 6:23:30 PM Quote this Post
" Draegnarrr wrote: If they've not had their stats changed in any way this is just suicide on a shitload of builds (on HC), most red tier elder guardians do like 5k unmodded any kind of regular damage amp is going to lead to a high number of one shots. I like the map mod system in general but i've really never been a fan of it applying to bosses, Shaper's guardians are Ok because they were balanced around it i'm fairly certain elder's weren't. Also melee suffer from these the worst, and they already suck. Modded eradicator as melee? lmfao Well, at least its not as bad as synteshis/delve is, in this case you can reroll the map (or do it white) if the mods are not doable for your build. The question is how you get this maps.	Posted by Mortyx#1049 on Dec 5, 2019, 6:42:44 PM Quote this Post
" Mortyx wrote: " Draegnarrr wrote: If they've not had their stats changed in any way this is just suicide on a shitload of builds (on HC), most red tier elder guardians do like 5k unmodded any kind of regular damage amp is going to lead to a high number of one shots. I like the map mod system in general but i've really never been a fan of it applying to bosses, Shaper's guardians are Ok because they were balanced around it i'm fairly certain elder's weren't. Also melee suffer from these the worst, and they already suck. Modded eradicator as melee? lmfao Well, at least its not as bad as synteshis/delve is, in this case you can reroll the map (or do it white) if the mods are not doable for your build. The question is how you get this maps. Heard you get them via Zana. In which case you cant reroll them.	Posted by HerrImHimmel#0237 on Dec 6, 2019, 12:07:56 AM Quote this Post
" HerrImHimmel wrote: " Mortyx wrote: " Draegnarrr wrote: If they've not had their stats changed in any way this is just suicide on a shitload of builds (on HC), most red tier elder guardians do like 5k unmodded any kind of regular damage amp is going to lead to a high number of one shots. I like the map mod system in general but i've really never been a fan of it applying to bosses, Shaper's guardians are Ok because they were balanced around it i'm fairly certain elder's weren't. Also melee suffer from these the worst, and they already suck. Modded eradicator as melee? lmfao Well, at least its not as bad as synteshis/delve is, in this case you can reroll the map (or do it white) if the mods are not doable for your build. The question is how you get this maps. Heard you get them via Zana. In which case you cant reroll them. Nice cortex and aul all over again, going to find 3 per league and 2 will have mods that make them impossible. Cool i guess.	Posted by Mortyx#1049 on Dec 6, 2019, 12:56:39 AM Quote this Post
Juggernauts with zero damage will be viable	Posted by cursorTarget#1174 on Dec 6, 2019, 1:06:31 AM Quote this Post
" ekaye wrote: " Nephalim wrote: The elder guardian will open a new portal to a new instance within the map that wont have map mods just like how it works currently. I think they're implying the exact opposite, that Elder Guardians will be in a boss room in the same instance, just like Shaper Guardians and most standard map bosses are now. So you'll have to deal with map mods making the bosses harder, but on the other hand you'll be able to go in with fully charged Vaal skills, Banner stages, Rage and so forth. Oh.. that is an absolutely terrible design choice considering elder content will already be extremely rare. IGN: Arlianth Check out my LA build: 1782214	Posted by Nephalim#2731 on Dec 6, 2019, 1:21:55 AM Quote this Post
" HerrImHimmel wrote: " Mortyx wrote: " Draegnarrr wrote: If they've not had their stats changed in any way this is just suicide on a shitload of builds (on HC), most red tier elder guardians do like 5k unmodded any kind of regular damage amp is going to lead to a high number of one shots. I like the map mod system in general but i've really never been a fan of it applying to bosses, Shaper's guardians are Ok because they were balanced around it i'm fairly certain elder's weren't. Also melee suffer from these the worst, and they already suck. Modded eradicator as melee? lmfao Well, at least its not as bad as synteshis/delve is, in this case you can reroll the map (or do it white) if the mods are not doable for your build. The question is how you get this maps. Heard you get them via Zana. In which case you cant reroll them. I hope it's not the only way to get these maps. They could make it a chance to drop with Elder influenced map (any map + Elder Scarab). They can do the same with Shaper Guardian Map (any map + Shaper Scarab). The higher tier the scarab, the higher chance of drop. "A game IS supposed to waste your time but it's not supposed to make you FEEL like you're wasting your time: It's supposed to make you WANT to waste your time."	Posted by boyandroid#6548 on Dec 6, 2019, 2:16:12 AM Quote this Post
" DivineChampion wrote: Weren't Elder guardians balanced around being in their own instance so they aren't affected by map mods? And now they will have 2-3 times more damage. WTF?.. The devs did say they wanted to make the endgame more challenging... at least elder guardians will now be affected by map iiq [19:36]#Mirror_stacking_clown: try smoke ganja every day for 10 years and do memory game	Posted by crunkatog#0985 on Dec 6, 2019, 4:09:27 AM Quote this Post