Goodbye Charan

Mfw when this guy gets a 69 page thread for leaving but if I went tomorrow nobody would notice

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Turtledove wrote:

First, why should any of us care?

Second, Impeacher posts are typically "hardly a sentence of content". Why should any of us care?

Third, boronzo went even longer between last post and his post! Oh my gosh is he even worse than Impeacher? Is he part of this weird conspiracy? Why isn't Fairystar part of the conspiracy anymore? Why should any of us care?

1) You shouldn't care, it's an observation

2) I don't know, same reason you seem to find a need to quote me? Posting one-liners without content like "none of this is true" to me appear to be "sentences without content".

3) i suggest you learn the difference between am/pm and between posting to a thread when it is on first page or bumping it from third page to first page.
Since my observation was based on that fact, not that people post in this thread when its on firstpage GD which is normal.

Anyhow, im glad it amused you and that Jerle has "got your back" on that front, i reckon its the same kind of amusement i get from seeing you backing up the impeacher who posts "none of this is true" as if thats how a counter-argument is formulated.

Ironically, Charan would probably be the first to agree he only played 30% of this game since he didn't care for the endgame at all or most of the game systems(crafting/mapping/endgame character stats/building etc)
He proved himself on multiple occasions to be out of depth when it came to feedback threads regarding game systems and i don't really think he cared or concerns himself with that observation.

Peace,

-Boem-

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baronzo wrote:

He basically had no life and spent 20 hours a day posting on these forums even when he was "boycotting" the game after the sellout to Tencent.

I think it was 78 hours a day posting here /s

Charan was involved with the game and with the forum. He was playing for a long time after Tencent took over.

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baronzo wrote:

Also, even though he had been playing for so long, he was famously terrible at this game,

Some people play to maximize the efficiency of their playtime and reap the most rewards in terms of items or currency.

Some people play to have fun.

If Charan had any interest in being a "top" player - the way most people define it in PoE terms, he could have been very good.

Imagine if Mathil never took his characters to maps, but instead created builds just for the fun of playing through the various acts with some challenge.

Am I comparing the two in terms of skills? No. I am comparing the two in terms of exploring what the game has to offer.

The real measure is in how much fun someone gets out of the game vs how much frustration they put up with from the game.

The only person that can tell you that is yourself. Hope you are still enjoying Path of Exile.

A lot of us are "famously terrible" at this game, and are totally unashamed of it. We play for reasons different than the masses. Charan is a story-teller. He's an author of fiction. High level play isn't about that.

He had enough free cash to put tens of thousands of dollars into a game that fit his stories well. He got out when it stopped fitting.

Let him go. Respect his choice.

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DalaiLama wrote:

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baronzo wrote:

He basically had no life and spent 20 hours a day posting on these forums even when he was "boycotting" the game after the sellout to Tencent.

I think it was 78 hours a day posting here /s

Charan was involved with the game and with the forum. He was playing for a long time after Tencent took over.

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baronzo wrote:

Also, even though he had been playing for so long, he was famously terrible at this game,

Some people play to maximize the efficiency of their playtime and reap the most rewards in terms of items or currency.

Some people play to have fun.

If Charan had any interest in being a "top" player - the way most people define it in PoE terms, he could have been very good.

Imagine if Mathil never took his characters to maps, but instead created builds just for the fun of playing through the various acts with some challenge.

Am I comparing the two in terms of skills? No. I am comparing the two in terms of exploring what the game has to offer.

The real measure is in how much fun someone gets out of the game vs how much frustration they put up with from the game.

The only person that can tell you that is yourself. Hope you are still enjoying Path of Exile.

Fun is subjective, as you point out.

The goal of the game however, is not, thats why we have objectives and a story line that fits that objective.

What Charan did was make personality's in the earliest stages of the game(which has the highest axis of freedom relative to difficulty, allowing for "bad set-ups" to still function within the game) and then stop playing when the game started punishing that choice because the freedom axis becomes narrower.
An alternative interpretation could be, "forces creativity" since many people have completed the story line with a lot of "bad set-ups" or wonky builds.

I don't know personally, but did he ever complete the full story line? Honestly curious if anybody knows.

Peace,

-Boem-

The goal of the game is entirely subjective.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

The goal of the game is entirely subjective.

Your conflating design and personal choice.

The game has a designed objective goal, currently "killing ubber elder and finishing the story line"

What people do within that designed objective goal is personal choice.

Else we wouldn't have Path of exile, but a world building tool with assets like WC3's custom map tool.

How else do you think designers formulate "progression" for players?

It's entirely fair to say for example that Charan hasn't progressed far into the game, while at the same time saying he had fun in the game.

One relates to the designed objective of the game currently and the other relates to the personal formulated goal within that designed objective.

Peace,

-Boem-

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Boem wrote:

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Shagsbeard wrote:

The goal of the game is entirely subjective.

Your conflating design and personal choice.

The game has a designed objective goal, currently "killing ubber elder and finishing the story line"

What people do within that designed objective goal is personal choice.

Else we wouldn't have Path of exile, but a world building tool with assets like WC3's custom map tool.

How else do you think designers formulate "progression" for players?

It's entirely fair to say for example that Charan hasn't progressed far into the game, while at the same time saying he had fun in the game.

One relates to the designed objective of the game currently and the other relates to the personal formulated goal within that designed objective.

Peace,

-Boem-

Schooled. I love it when people hide behind "Subjective" when games with specific genres have certain benchmark mechanics that make them popular. No the design goal is not subjective, like he said you can do whatever you find fun but the game has a set path.

We'll have to disagree on that. Killing Uber Elder was a goal created for people who cheated their way past all the other goals they might have set for themselves. There's 100s of different goals people can create in this game without "tools". You've just narrowed it down to one and think that your choice is the only valid one.

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We'll have to disagree on that. Killing Uber Elder was a goal created for people who cheated their way past all the other goals they might have set for themselves. There's 100s of different goals people can create in this game without "tools". You've just narrowed it down to one and think that your choice is the only valid one.

Can you elaborate on "cheated their way past all the other goals they might have set for themselves"?