[3.6] Starter&End Game | Herald Of Agony | 10-25K ES | 3-6M DPS | Occultist | All Content Done Easy



As I almost exclusively use this for non-endgame boss content I check it and just mentioned it as I do it automatically. But I guess you are right. Except, do you think during an Uber Elder fight you go 8 seconds without your crawler killing some lil dude. You should have almost constant Frenzys in that fight. And every other bossfight can't really be called end-game any longer with the power creep we got over the last year :D

But I get your point.

And that reminds me, do you guys use this as a Boss farmer? Because I would never have thought of it as the damage is pretty much capped at 2.9m Shaper DPS for me. And that is best-case when the crawler would use exclusively Tail Spike. In reality it should be much lower at around 2m maybe.

But I guess the huge defense of 17000 ES makes up for the slow kills.[/quote]

Is this build really that bad as a boss farmer ?
I just started this build , got to level 86, enchanted my helm on Xbox and 6l a Vaal regalia , bought s elder grove bow and circle ring , so please if this build is bad at bossing somebody lmk soon before I go all in on Es gear.. I thought for sure I saw videos on YouTube of herald of agony killing Uber elder in 2 mins...

Also because I use a iPad and don’t have path of building can somebody give me insight and direct me where the best places to put energy from within jewels . Thanks
The pet pretty much phases any boss in 3 seconds, so I don't see why its bad to consider it a boss farmer. It never melees (for me at least) and mortar, while it looks deceptive in POB - each mortar ball hits that hard. with multiple mortar hitting, the damage is incredibly high - kind of like molten strike.

I kill uber elder in the 2 / sub 2 minutes (mostly waiting on phases) shaper quickly...every synthesis boss is jokes, and I even do uber atziri by cursing myself and not caring. I don't think I'd spend the time to create, level and gear another character
Last edited by Slottm on Apr 1, 2019, 10:24:10 AM
Never said it is bad. It is just not top tier for Uber Elder farming. Divine Ire, Storm Blast and co. have easily triple the shaper DPS of this build.

And as my damage is the same as Slottm in PoB I guess I might just have had a few bad Uber Elder runs? Because I sure as hell did not insta phase Uber Elder :D

This build is an insanely powerful all-rounder though! It does everything pretty well.
Last edited by Mecielle on Apr 1, 2019, 10:45:06 AM
Are you remembering to put minion damage over minion speed in for calcs vs bosses? That brings me up to 3.9 with frenzy charges, and 3 without. Can also decide to use withering touch over poachers mark, but that actually looks like a loss to me (I guess the - evasion is better for me?)
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Slottm wrote:
Are you remembering to put minion damage over minion speed in for calcs vs bosses? That brings me up to 3.9 with frenzy charges, and 3 without. Can also decide to use withering touch over poachers mark, but that actually looks like a loss to me (I guess the - evasion is better for me?)


Yea, Withering Touch wont do much, the crawler only deals a minor portion in chaos damage.

And yea, Minion Damage is in, but I had poison stacks only on 5 for some reason. With everything enabled now I get to 4.2m Shaper DPS on Tail Spike, which I would rough to around ~3.3m real DPS because of the different attacks. So the top tier bossers are only 2.5x the shaper DPS I guess.

I am not arguing the build can't do extremely easy Uber Elder kills, it totally can kill him relatively fast, easy and deathless. My orginal question was if someone is actually using it as a pure boss farmer. Because if so, there are some much stronger and much cheaper builds to fill that roll.
Last edited by Mecielle on Apr 1, 2019, 11:08:07 AM
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Mecielle wrote:
Never said it is bad. It is just not top tier for Uber Elder farming. Divine Ire, Storm Blast and co. have easily triple the shaper DPS of this build.

And as my damage is the same as Slottm in PoB I guess I might just have had a few bad Uber Elder runs? Because I sure as hell did not insta phase Uber Elder :D

This build is an insanely powerful all-rounder though! It does everything pretty well.

Im at 55 deathless uber elder kills in this league with this build, never died from lvl 92 to lvl 99
why do you need more than 3-3.5 mil dps? To kill uber elder 15 seconds faster? I don't understand
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blg_RealiZe wrote:
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Mecielle wrote:
Never said it is bad. It is just not top tier for Uber Elder farming. Divine Ire, Storm Blast and co. have easily triple the shaper DPS of this build.

And as my damage is the same as Slottm in PoB I guess I might just have had a few bad Uber Elder runs? Because I sure as hell did not insta phase Uber Elder :D

This build is an insanely powerful all-rounder though! It does everything pretty well.

Im at 55 deathless uber elder kills in this league with this build, never died from lvl 92 to lvl 99
why do you need more than 3-3.5 mil dps? To kill uber elder 15 seconds faster? I don't understand


Did you even read my comment? If farming Uber Elder is absolutely all you do, there are stronger and MUCH cheaper builds to do it. I actually said in the comment you quoted that this does it fast and easy too.

Anyway, I am done with this discussion. I asked one innocent question if there are actually people that are using this EXCLUSIVELY for boss farming, and then everyone and their fuckin mum jumps on it.

To sum up what I said about the build before I leave: build is strong, 17000ES with some mediocre items, 19000ES seems doable for not too much more investion. Damage is insane for clearing, great for bossing. Fun build, would play again.
Last edited by Mecielle on Apr 1, 2019, 11:37:43 AM
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blg_RealiZe wrote:
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Mecielle wrote:
Never said it is bad. It is just not top tier for Uber Elder farming. Divine Ire, Storm Blast and co. have easily triple the shaper DPS of this build.

And as my damage is the same as Slottm in PoB I guess I might just have had a few bad Uber Elder runs? Because I sure as hell did not insta phase Uber Elder :D

This build is an insanely powerful all-rounder though! It does everything pretty well.

Im at 55 deathless uber elder kills in this league with this build, never died from lvl 92 to lvl 99
why do you need more than 3-3.5 mil dps? To kill uber elder 15 seconds faster? I don't understand



How much memory nexus, aka fully juiced 83 zones with like 45+ PS and 5-6 damage mods have you been doing? I've been really struggling lately with like triple ele, ele pen, turbo with monster dmg on top. In Zones like that just sometimes simply get 1 shot without any possible reaction. Yeah it's alot of dmg but I was expecting to be bit tankier. (Last league on a HoWA Jug similar zones would just tickle me, could easily push to 100 in very rippy delve zones d500+) ES recharge doesnt even get to kick in and my gear aint that bad either. 16.5k ES, Spider, 2 defensive curses etc.
Looking for a little clarification if anyone doesn't mind. Looks like when crafting the thicket bow with +1 socketed gems implicit, that the overall best damage setup looks like:

Herald of Agony
Empower
Damage on Full Life
Vicious Projectiles
Minion damage
Vile toxins

- Looks like vile toxins outdoes maim by quite a bit. Is there any argument for using maim over vile toxins if you play primarily solo?

For crafting of the bow, is it basically slam with serrated til 20% attack damage (or, serrated, corroded, metallic, prismatic leaving very few choices for prefixes) then either manually slam the +1 to gems on if 2 prefix and no attack modifiers...

I think that'll be my next fun upgrade to do :)
Hey guys,

My character AgonyTG is doing well with this guide. Recently got the less reservation ring so that I can run hatred and I'm really starting to pop off. I would appreciate if someone could look at where I'm at and give me a few next steps to upgrade and in what order.

Right now I have a 6-link quill rain, a 5-link chest with around 600 ES (but I have some dense fossils to try for higher). Debating either going for a +gems bow, 6-link chest or the helm enchant as my next big purchase

Right now I have 9.2k ES which seems low compared to what people are posting in the thread, is there something I'm doing wrong?

Thanks,

TGToland

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