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fortyb4five wrote:
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fortyb4five wrote:
Is this patch going to fix the problem with not being able to play on amd laptop? My bro has been trying to play with me but cant.
Could I get a reply from someone please. I really want to play this with my bro. We've been dreaming of this since d2.
I didn't see anything in the patch notes about fixing fortyb4five's laptop issues.
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Directrix wrote:
Given that a part of the tree is changing, and everybody uses all parts of the same tree, it's only proper to totally reset everyone. If non-Duelists were somehow artificially barred from entering the Duelist starting area, it would be a different story, and only Duelists would require a reset.
Consider if a certain character is completely unaffected by the changes, but they would have entered the Duelist region had the tree been in 0.10.2 status prior.
Also, you can't just reset certain segments of builds, because depending on the new placement/usefulness of nodes, certain characters may have never even entered or approached the Duelist region, and how do you determine how many points were wasted getting to a point where you no longer aim to be? The routes/nodes taken even initially could be fundamentally changed in builds due to one changed point way down the line.
A full re-spec for all characters is the only choice where fairness is concerned.
Umm, remember this is still a beta, so basically, you play it at your own risk. Its like if they changed the price on a certain item, or a vendor recipe and you would ask for them to refund your in-game transactions just because if you knew about the change, you wouldnt have sold your items pre-patch.
I don't disagree with anything you've said (or the others who replied), and given what you said, why does anybody deserve a respec of any kind, going by your and other's logic in here? "Use and choose at your own risk."
Going by the logic of "reroll or live with it", nobody should get a respec if nodes/paths change in the tree, which I would be fine with. I love rerolling.
But as I said, with respect to fairness, either everybody gets a full respec or nobody gets any points reset. Whether or not fairness should be a major criteria in game decisions is a whole 'nother debate, and I don't deny that there are likely more important factors.
The question you put forward is simple to answer.
Nodes have disappeared, new nodes have appeared, nodes have changed.
We have already covered the reasons why people shouldn't get a respect if they are exactly as they were pre change. The people who will be affected and get a respec will actually have characters that have changed, if a node they took has changed, then their character has. Remember also, you can't just leave a gap in the skillgrimage where something was removed, the character's path has to be complete so do you 'force' a new passive on the character to link his nodes or do you simply give that character the choice?
It seems a no brainer to me, /shrug.
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Posted byTheAnuhart#4741on Mar 7, 2013, 3:39:08 PM
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Remember a change may also have a great impact on characters planned to go to/through the changed area.
Imho it's unfair that these characters has to be rerolled because that area of the tree they were going for has now changed.
If things are going to be fair all characters should get a skill reset otherwise it isn't fair at all.
I am aware that things in life isn't always fair and maybe GGG isn't going for fair and that's fine.
BUT if they are trying to be fair they have to reset all characters.
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Posted byEndboss#6045on Mar 7, 2013, 4:05:14 PM
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BUT if they are trying to be fair they have to reset all characters.
No; they don't have to reset all characters to be fair.
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Posted byjordonus#5838on Mar 7, 2013, 4:09:51 PM
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So, 1h 15m for patch right?
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Posted byNCPereira#0852on Mar 7, 2013, 4:16:43 PM
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my disposable witch just killed brutus!
I am ready to GET DAT NEW SPELL!
Dual Searing Touch Firecaster Shadow is waiting!!!!!
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Posted byH463N#3978on Mar 7, 2013, 4:18:57 PM
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BUT if they are trying to be fair they have to reset all characters.
No; they don't have to reset all characters to be fair.
That's a very thought through and sound argument you have there.
I guess I have to bow to you in defeat on that one.
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Posted byEndboss#6045on Mar 7, 2013, 4:36:03 PM
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fortyb4five wrote:
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fortyb4five wrote:
Is this patch going to fix the problem with not being able to play on amd laptop? My bro has been trying to play with me but cant.
Could I get a reply from someone please. I really want to play this with my bro. We've been dreaming of this since d2.
I didn't see anything in the patch notes about fixing fortyb4five's laptop issues.
Lol this
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Posted byZoida#0158on Mar 7, 2013, 4:40:59 PM
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BUT if they are trying to be fair they have to reset all characters.
No; they don't have to reset all characters to be fair.
It makes sense though. If you go hybrid from say, Ranger to Marauder, or the other way round, at the moment it's not very practical to go through Duelist but who's to say after the patch?
Therefore for many people they might have wanted to reconsider their build even if they don't currently use the duelist nodes.
Plus, those that are close to duelist can somehow take advantage of this info, and spend a few respec to get one affected duelist node and make sure they get a full respec...
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Posted byDeF46#3887on Mar 7, 2013, 4:45:13 PM
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H463N wrote:
my disposable witch just killed brutus!
I am ready to GET DAT NEW SPELL!
Dual Searing Touch Firecaster Shadow is waiting!!!!!
Searing touch is a staff... therefor it requires 2 hands..
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Posted byWalhart#1365on Mar 7, 2013, 4:48:00 PM
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