How Atlas Objectives Work

Can't wait

Zana is bae

GGG is making the game even more difficult and less rewarding. It's very frustating playing maps with cool mods and the drops are a complete trash! Pure waste of time ... and the nerds are vibrating with these changes! Thats why they are nerds ...

I will wait some people to play and see the feedback. I don't care with nerds opinion, only with the opinion of serious players!

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Treufeldt wrote:

GGG is making the game even more difficult and less rewarding. It's very frustating playing maps with cool mods and the drops are a complete trash! Pure waste of time ... and the nerds are vibrating with these changes! Thats why they are nerds ...

I will wait some people to play and see the feedback. I don't care with nerds opinion, only with the opinion of serious players!

I'd venture a guess most of the serious players are nerds there, fella.

sounds like this screws ssf dry and hard. If you dont have the map, you cant do the mission.

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Druga1757 wrote:

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keeperofstars wrote:

I swear people have zero reading comprehension.....


Dailies aren't locked behind a static map.

When you force a re-spawn, it is no longer a daily. If you run the daily, then force another spawn, you get TWO missions for the same master. If you don't run the daily, force a re-spawn, then you only get one mission for the master. So dailies ARE locked behind the map they spawn on. Talk about zero reading comprehension.

"There is no more daily's" you just have masters spawn on certain maps now . They just happen to all spawn once per day.

There is zero to gain by how many times you play the masters. It's your game progress, beyond being able to run their mechanic / league.

basically,

they spawn, you run a map it randomly says hey 1-100 if the rng hits, 30 or lower spawn a random master on a map. IT's a 30% spawn rate guys, every 3rd map will spawn a new master.

Ok spawn master hit, now lets randomly pick from 1 of the masters, ok the wheel landed on Einhart, ok now lets place him on the map around the last map ran in general, ok did that now remove him from the other map, cause they can only be spawned 1 of each at a time.


So you could have Zana, Alva, einhart, Niko all spawned randomly for the day.


Zana is on a map you have so you run the map and encounter her. Good, her progress isn't going to move 1 bit. Her favor is tied to the story line progression with atlas and shaper.

You run the same map again, no new masters, run same map again, this time you roll to spawn a master, and then it rolls it wants to spawn Alva, you haven't ran her yet so it puts it on a map around your last ran one and removes her from the map she was on before.

You run the same map, and do the temple. which keep in mind is 3 temple runs.

This time right after that map you get lucky with your 1 out of 3 roll and niko is choosen, so he moves to a map near you.

Run it and this time it spawns again but its niko this time, so you run the delve again,

still all running maps around the one you just did.

The masters are a random 1 in 3 spawn, then it randomly picks which one to spawn, then where to spawn them, aka nearby last map run or at least in same tier. If they current exist in the map then remove them from the old spot. I'll assume this is to prevent people from stockpiling masters on the atlas, and then having parties to clear them all off.

So there is zero map locking, there are no longer dailies, and mastercrafting has very little to do with the masters themselves, and is all about your progression through their league mechanic.

Zana - map unlock / shaper / elder unlock affects what can be crafted.
Alva - the temple rooms you have cleared unlocks the master crafting
Niko - your delve level / special rooms / monsters you have killed affect crafting.
Einhar - the beasts you have captured affect what can be crafted

There only aspects to running them multiple times is to enjoy the content. It will take little time to full unlock Alva, while Zana will be unlocked in first week for people that hit maps hard,

Niko will be based on your delving abilities and progress

and einhar while a bit random due to the beast spawning, will be pretty straight forward.

Now I can see Einhar getting stuck into the aspect of having to be pushed to spawn on high red maps so you can get T15 mobs to spawn in the instances. Beyond that it really doesn't matter. Though you will want to run Alva in Red maps as well, for the better temple average level.

Niko isn't important where you run him really,

People need to stop thinking them as being like old dailies for master craft exp.

You get to do a master run every 3 maps just about.

Now yes if they spawn on a map you don't have you will have to potentially have to run 1-3 more maps to get them to spawn, which could... put you behind, but once again, are you hunting head hunters, or farming master zones? The choice is yours, and you are free to do so.

You can also still hit up the good old chat #LFG Zana runs, and toss your hate into a party run, but it no longer has any effect on your master craft options.

NICE TRY!

Then here is to hoping to having increased map drops?

im a bit concerned for noob players like me. in the old master system i could bring my masters to 7 in a reasonable time. i never gone for 8 . And i barely do red maps while getting the character to 90+. If i remember correctly some time ago there were information on how many player reach red maps, I believe it was less than 10% of the playerbase. How do the ther players going to get their masters and the crafting recipes to a decent lvl? In the old system it just was a matter of time but in Betrayel? As i said, im concerned.

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