Announcing Private Leagues

I'll say it frankly, I feel like the costs are way too high. This is something that, by itself can be very fun but attaching a cost to these leagues, without a reward, without special drops and with a very limited amount of time/players feels like it should be ignored by the vast majority.

Honestly, I'd put the starting amount of players allowed to join at 50 and reduce cost of adding extra players at 10 points per person. This cost should be paid by the player trying to join rather than the owner of the league.

Time should be between 7 and 30 days baseline (to the choice of the maker) and be possible to extend up to 3 months. The cost for extending should be no more than 10 points per day (essentially, 1$/day).


You need to make getting into leagues very cheap so that most players will want to participate rather than (essentially) reserving them to a few. If it stay as is, I fear that only streamers and some of their audience will truly use them, which isn't a very big number.

that is not a good idea..

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Kirisute_Gomen wrote:
How would an AH prevent price fixing? Oh, I see Mathil is using weapon X and jewel Y, let's buy a lot of them quickly and put them up for a ridiculous price asap. No difference, with or without an AH."

The AH can have much more good/bad impact to game, ie:

The Good
- Fix fake price problem: set item for low price, but not actually sell for trick other people to sell lower price.
- Many people can easily access to buy/sell
- Lower very expensive item price: because many people can easily access to sell, this make more item in market.
- Don't need to present to trade by [player to player] system. This make many people use bot/assist program to trade(it's very bad game designed to let people use 3rd program to game client).
- Fix monopoly Marketing

The Bad
- Maybe cause currency inflation: just maybe, but why bad? this game has design to use currency to craft, if currency has no value just use to craft item. Unless people have use currency to RMT, they don't have to bother by this problem.
- Maybe made game too easy because many item in market to pick: this is argument able state, because the game design to use unique item to play some build (not passive tree), why don't give easy item to them to play what they like?

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AH System
How to control the AH system to work perfectly to fix [fake price], [Flood of item] problem?. There is "many" way to do to fix. If you used to MMORPG game, their are many way such as:

1. Limit number of item trade per player: just 5 item in new tab, and sell extra Tab for more GGG profit. The Trade new tab will use API to find like currently system use (it's not hard to modify old coding code and win-win for player to easy access/GGG for profit).

2. Limit time per item in AH: 3-30 day up to appropriate. It'll help lower the flood of item in AH.

3. Take the Fee when posting something: Around 5-10% of cost. This help to fix the Fake price problem, if they put high prize and noone buy, they paid service.

4. Take the Fee when noone buy item: Around 10-30% of cost. The post can choose to pick item out from tab or destroy in with no cost.

5. "If" want to destroy item from game just put a "owner counter" for an item, for allow to trade only for "x" time, if reach "0" it cannot be trade. (as same as Drxgxx Nxxx game), this system has it own good/bad point.

Their many way to implement AH to benefit player and GGG at the same time, but AH will cause negative effect to people who do RMT for sure.
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For this new patch Private ledge
It will benefit steamer/tuber most. For normal player, it will satisfy someone who has group of friend to play with, but has slightly impact to all player about divine player base in every server and maybe impact about price of item due to [player to player] trade system.

PS: Sorry for my English skill, not my native language.

Well, a streamers-only feature ? I hope they'll have fun.

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Tuomari wrote:

I feel this is like thosse physical game discks that come with the game and locked DLC in same disc, I was fine paying fo cosmetics put locking part of the game is shitty thing to do.

Like? Actually who'd like to play such a private league? Only people that want the game to be harder then it is already, so people that make level 100 in the first week or less and all kind of HC/SSF Players I guess.

I think it's harsh to charge 120 points for 10 days of playtime. WoW charges ~ 10-12 €/$ (so about 120 points) for a month of playtime.... Suer PoE say the whole 10 which can be split between the players, so a whole month is about ~ 4,6 €/$ per player.

So again, who the heck want or better said can afford to play such stuff? Maybe it grant a chance that people who actually think the game is to easy, will stay out of the normal league's so lower players get a chance....


They don't lock a part of the game, they actually give people the possibility to play in groups for their own on a harder difficulty, with the same or less rewards then actual league's.

This is the best feature so far.
Anyone who says otherwise are lying to themselves.... For those players who are crying, ask yourself how this is gonna influence your gameplay? Exactly, it has no influence to you solo players at all. ON the other hand for people who play games only with friends and i can guarantee there is a market of these people and it's NOT as small as you may think this is GENIOUS! Please GGG KEEP THIS FEATURE!

P.s for those who don't quite get why they are doing it, simply check how love guilds and parties mechanics received in last few years... Finally this is the feature that invites new players, keeps old ones and they receive funding and reward for polishing those party related features. :]

POE Now is turning to pay to win game ?

Shame !

Wow, Group SSF. GSF I guess.

I am sold. I won't make the game harder but I am definitely going to look at a league with 10-40 players only.

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Bombastyk wrote:

POE Now is turning to pay to win game ?

Shame !

Well not p2w.

But definitely now money is not only for "cosmetic" and "convenience".

Now there are paid leagues with extra features. So it's kinda payed exclusive content. I missed the times when races with cool mods were free to play, lol.

Sad but true, this is only starting.

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morbeis wrote:

I've read most of this thread (yea i know, should have better ways to use my time) and the negative comments are generally from people who :

- didn't read the whole announcement
- don't realise this is an 8 year+ old design goal (lol Tencent?!)
- read the announcement but failed to understand the wording of the announcement

The negative comments are almost entirely from people with really bad literacy and/or numeracy skills. It's shocking. I suppose for some English isn't their first language but for others it's really embarrassing.

Compare the positive and negative comments, it's like pre and post lobotomy.

If you don't like it that's fine. This isn't the only announcement.

-Morbeis

^^ Also read most of this thread and ye most of the people complaining have no clue what they are talking about.

Also seeing alot of people saying streamers will make money of it, i assure you they wont they would get banned without a warning for Sub only league or donate for invites e.t.c